The much heralded bipartisan effort to craft election reform legislation is going nowhere fast.
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1405536
This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1405536
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Good, That way Kamala gets to overturn next election if things don’t go the way of angels.
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Susan Collins is worthless, wishy washy worthless!!
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We’ve reached the Republican dream state: full legislative non-existence, lawmaking nullity, a theoretical legislature that can, and will, accomplish nothing.
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You want Manchination’s vote, offer him a federal strategic coal reserve to be located in west virginia. Sinemy, I don’t know. Maybe a board seat on the Goodwill Foundation?
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That resistance may keep some of the most meaningful reforms — like the proposal from the separate effort spearheaded by Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Angus King (I-ME), which would bar state legislatures from appointing a new slate of electors after Election Day — out of the final bill.
There’s something very wrong with the anti-democracy, pro-dictatorship fascism loving gop insisting that they will tell us how to run our elections. Not content with the field already being heavily tilted their way, they want to enshrine into law one party ‘democracy’ based upon the models found in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, and those other bastions of freedom so deeply loved by the orange abomination.
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If I read your comment maybe 15(?) years ago i might think it to be melodramatic or at least overstatement. Unless we get the voting system back to some semblance of normality, we’re heading pell-mell to autocracy.
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This.
Without the other election reforms, revising the ECA only hamstrings Harris in 2024 when the GOP tries the electoral-stealing actions they failed to do in 2020. I’m onboard for this ‘reform’ to languish in Manchin bipartisan purgatory.
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Now all we need is for the reactionary SCOTUS Five to do the same things for the executive branch, and Libertarian Paradise, free of burdensome laws and regulations, will be at hand.
But there’s no real difference between the Reps and Dems, right?
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And from the details she provided, it’ll only deal with a very small part of presidential elections. She noted that there’s been consensus around better defining the role of the vice presidency in certifying elections and increasing the number of lawmakers needed to object to the electoral college certification to trigger the state-by-state procedure.
Beyond that, she said it gets “very complex very quickly.” The bipartisan group has employed the help of six legal advisors for the weedier questions.
And really there’s no hurry because the Democrats would never try to pull what Trump tried to pull because they respect the Constitution and the institutions of this government, so no worries about Kamala actually trying to subvert an election. That’s not to say there hasn’t been Democratic abuse of the system, but not anywhere near the scope and attempts of the GOP since Reagan broke Air Traffic Controller’s union and started trickling down on the rest of us.
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I think what Republicans want is a system like Russia with their Duma. Limited ability to do anything, but get a paycheck from the gov’t.
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Good luck with all of that.
With a carve out for tax cuts.
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This isn’t hard. If the Electoral College is successfully challenged by the Congress or indeterminate, the election of the POTUS gets thrown to the House. However, if the House votes for the winner of the National Popular Vote, they all get to go on with life. If they vote for ANYONE ELSE, they must report to the Supermax in Florence, CO for 10 years for sedition and dereliction of duty. Simple, Constitutional and democratic. You can write the whole Act on one page.
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Both the POTUS and the VPOTUS have taken an Oath that requires that they protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. They must continue to have the authority to challenge a demonstrable corrupt election in any State in the Union. Any ECA reform that does not address the prosecution snd mitigation of a massive corruption of an election at the state level is an un-Constitutional violation of the law and order authority of the Executive as provided in Article 2 by denying that Executive his or her power to insure that “the laws are faithfully executed”.
I am not saying Trump was right for trying to subvert a legitimate federal election, but I am saying that laws which try to bind the Executive in enforcing the law are un Constitutional and that is exactly what the GOP is aiming to accomplish with this sudden interest in the ECA. Trump’s crime was that he tried to intervene in the peaceful transfer of power to Joe Biden who was the winner of a legitimate election in all 50 states.
This sudden interest in “reforming the ECA” by the GOP is suspect and is just another act to further their plan to subvert the 2024 election and every election thereafter. The GOP really needs to be prosecuted for CONFRAUDUS and broken up.
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We’re in uncharted waters. We have no idea of what will happen if this vote-suppress-rigging hodgepodge remains in place through Nov 2024.
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She’s worse than worthlessly wishy-washy. She really is a conscious tool for McConnell to slow down and drag out any proposed Democratic legislation or nomination until the clock runs out. This is a game we’ve seen played out again and again.
Collins has not a shred of principle. She’s every bit a Repug snake-in-the-grass as Graham, Rubio, or Haw-Haw Hawley.
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Biden should veto it.
“The Democratic side of the effort is led by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)”
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