Succinct and likely spot on.
It’s lawyerese for “Fuck Off! and Eat Shit and Die!”
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Barr already stated in an interview with CBS news that he is not worried about his reputation, because…you know…“Everyone dies, and I am not, you know, I don’t believe in the Homeric idea that, you know, immortality comes by, you know, having odes sung about you over the centuries, you know?”
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Extremely difficult tap dancing routine to do there. Because A) it has to jive with the rationale that Ross has testified to already and B) (this is the REALLY tricky part) it has to be done in a way that doesn’t drag the new evidence found on the dead guy’s computer into the discussion.
B) is impossible to pull off IMO, especially with A) being a point they are locked into now. The Roberts Court made the ruling they made with the wink to the Administration, while purposefully ignoring that evidence (as they had to, since it wasn’t before them at the time they were considering the arguments). They can’t ignore it with new legal proceedings and an introduction of a new motivation into the debate.
So I can understand why someone from the DoJ would want to remove themselves from an impossible task…you either can’t win the case (highly probable regardless) and will more than likely be asked to perjure yourself and/or your client in the process of losing the case.
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“If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table”
Except the SC typically is not receptive to table pounding.
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Yes.
Maybe I’m too cynical, but it would not surprise me to find out that Port-A-John Roberts and Shill Barr have been in conversation, wherein Roberts said “If you word it exactly this way, it’ll give me enough cover to rule for you.”
I don’t think it will matter how the lower courts decide, because it will get back to SCOTRP eventually, and they’ll be back on-board with disenfranchisement – not that they ever were NOT on-board, of course.
YOU MISSED THE DEADLINE, SFB!
I’m fed up with your lifetime and your family of special dispensations.
Special dispensation for this.
Special dispensation for that.
You make me sick!
What ever happened to law and order?
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Here’s a good analysis of the issue: https://electionlawblog.org/?p=106038
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“…the Department of Justice is shifting these matters to a new team of Civil Division lawyers going forward…”
Initially read that as ‘shitting’. Sounds about right.
On a less puerile note, this move is almost certainly about demonstrating to “der Base” that the admin is valiantly fighting the good fight against liberals and brown-skins. If they luck out and manage to get the question on, well, that’s like collateral benefit at this point.
Also, just so we’re on the same page here, “der Base” does not give two shits what the legal justification or rationale for the question is, nor are they bothered if process rules have to be bent or broken to get the question on. The guy they elected wants to put it on; they know it will be a thumb in the eye of “illegals” (and similar melanin-enhanced subpopulations); therefore, anything standing in the way of it is clearly wrongheaded and must be doing the bidding of libs.
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… or … this is now more about a very twisted power game battle by Trump (& the voices in his head) and Roberts … remember the rage - the screams of traitor when Roberts did not roll over on this (like the other 4 stooges) … Trump has never trusted Roberts… gets enraged when Roberts does not support his side…
So it would be easy to see this becoming a “litmus test” of loyalty … almost like a mob/gang test where the underling is forced to perform a gratuitous “hit” - if they do it, they are criminal &tainted forever and controllable … if they refuse- they are then the enemy.
Count on this - if Trump loses this … and if it looks at all like it was Roberts’ vote that did it - he will wage war on Roberts … call him untrustworthy … demand his right to have a Chief Justice of his own choosing and call for his resignation …
Yep, that’s going to make it tough to argue anything else - unless they go “tRump doesn’t know what the heck he’s talking about”.
Somehow I don’t think that argument will sit well with the cretin squatting in the Oval Office. LOL.
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You are spot on … “der Base” has zero understanding of constitutional law & the role of the Supreme Court … they think it is 9 “Judge Judys” spewing out their assessment of “right and wrong” …
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You are spot on … “der Base” has zero understanding of constitutional law & the role of the Supreme Court … they think it is 9 “Judge Judys” spewing out their assessment of “right and wrong” …
Frankly I can’t believe Roberts let that bitch Darlene keep Mindy’s security deposit, especially since that good for nothing boyfriend of her’s was stealing electricity for that stupid fucking RV that was always in the driveway.
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Thanks, but now I think it best I stop trying to keep up. Jeez…
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The Civil Division is separate and distinct from the Civil Rights Division. The Civil Division is the one that defends federal laws and federal government policies.
I will note that the head of Civil is a longtime career DOJ lawyer. Cannot imagine he is enjoying his job that much right now.
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Total speculation, but no more so than what you get from DOJ lawyer trying to tell a judge what the government’s real plans are on the census question:
Trumpp told Barr he wanted new lawyers in the case. When Barr cruised the building to find some, everybody tried to look Way Too Busy. When he reached the Consumer Protection Branch, he knew nobody there would be working on any cases, so the act didn’t work.
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Good, I’m glad. The career lawyers didn’t sign up for this BS. (The lead attorney in particular has been there for years, if not decades, and has a good reputation.) I just hope no other careers got stuck with this s— sandwich.
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Yes we can never forget. Der Base does not like or love Chump. They love the white nationalism. They feel the libs are begetting brown and gay movements which conflict with their strong white nationalist beliefs and shaky religious beliefs.
I don’t use the word racism although that is undoubtedly the case for many. And I don’t believe all R voters are evil. I believe they are very scared and want R politicians to strike their Fear Blows for them. I blame these R voters for everything, but I don’t attribute the very worst possible motives to all of them. Ignorant and afraid covers a large swath of them. They are willing to back ANYBODY who will pull these asshole moves, and they see gays/browns/libs as such a threat that this is their final chance; and R voters no longer care how it is accomplished. Chump has divined which items carry their unswerving support and goes back to those items whenever he is in trouble. How sickening to watch a U.S. President pull the Evil lever again and again. How sickening to know he is the worst human our continent ever produced, and is maneuvering for his OWN agenda…not a political party agenda or a radical nationalist agenda…HIS agenda. And he is using the hatred, fear, and evil of our benighted populace at every opportunity. Everyone is getting screwed in this scenario. His voters are NOT going to get what they want ultimately. They will suffer in perpetuity with the rest of us. No national agenda is being realized…even if it is a bad or regressive agenda. Only Chump is being served and he is a black hole of need. None of this will achieve anything except destruction. And Der Base thinks that this is all worth it…even the destruction of our country’s institutions and Rule of Law…because they see their window closing.
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Oop and thanks, but still theology and law?
Adding the citizenship question for “partisan” reasons would not appear to be unconstitutional under the present Supreme Court’s jurisdprudence. What would be unconstitutional is adding the citizenship question for racially discriminatory purposes, which the recently discovered evidence confirms. Without that evidence, the administration might have been able to get away with arguing that the question was appropriate so states and local governments could use CVAP (citizen voting-age population) as a basis for redistricting. Fortunately, Thomas Hofeller was too stupid not to put their racially discriminatory intent in writing, and the scumbags at Commerce and DOJ who were tasked with implementing that policy have now been caught in blatant discovery abuse because they improperly withheld those documents from the plaintiffs.
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Is there not a single attorney in the Dept. of Justice who will stand up and be a profile in courage? At this point a hero would be a breath of fresh air who may be able to force an attempt to reinstate the rule of law. I am not optimistic but I can dream.
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