DOJ Acknowledged 2 Out Of 4 FISA Warrants To Monitor Carter Page Were Invalid

The Department of Justice admitted in December that two of the FBI’s four surveillance warrants to electronically monitor ex-Trump campaign adviser Carter Page were invalid, according to a declassified Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court order published on Thursday.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1286623

Obviously this means the impeachment proceedings be halted and the Articles rescinded.

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This is real, but it’s hard to take it seriously when Trump & friends trample the rule of law constantly. Considering how Trump loves and constantly interacts with Russians, erring on the side of suspicion seems wise. But now Barr will investigate the investigators and get them fired, so all is lost.

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Cue the screeching about witch hunts, etc, etc, etc. I’m nearing the end of my rope.
But, damn me if Adam Schiff didn’t finish on a high note last night! Am I alone in thinking his eyes were welling up in the last minute?

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It happens on occasion. It’s a convoluted process to monitor someone while staying aware of civil rights.

And it should be a convoluted process. It’s part of what keeps us honest.

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Hell, it probably means the president isn’t balding; the Obama presidency should be rescinded; and we have to re-open the Benghazi hearings.

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This is DOJ rewriting History. And even with malice aforethought, they could only come up with non-evidence enough to question two of them.

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It wouldn’t surprise me even the teensiest little bit to learn that most FISA warrants have flaws. It’s a highly opaque process, and one that offers ample scope for both abuse and laziness.

None of which changes the fundamental fact that, when law enforcement strongly suspects that someone in a highly placed, politically sensitive position may be in contact (for whatever motive) with hostile foreign intelligence, it is right and proper to keep an eye on that person. That’s what law enforcement is supposed to do.

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Too much credence being given here to Bill Barr DOJ.

Same problem with BLS statistics on unemployment rates

The default assumption should be that, unless proven otherwise, everyone is cooking books to please the dear leader or to avoid being the target of his wrath and tweets.

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OK, OK, lessee—all right, got it:

IMAGINE IF A SURGEON BOTCHED FIFTY PERCENT OF THE OPERATIONS HE OR SHE DID? DO YOU WANT THAT PERSON TO TAKE OUT YOUR GRANDMOTHER’S GALL BLADDER? HOW ABOUT IF YOUR BRAKES WORKED FIFTY PERCENT OF THE TIME? WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? And so forth.

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No you are not the only one. The first time I saw that presentation by Schiff I thought the exact same thing.

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IOKIYAR

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Very odd. It’s the DOJ, not the court, that has decided in hindsight that 2 of 4 warrants were not sufficiently supported. And it’s the DOJ that has sequestered all information gathered under all 4 warrants, even though 2 were ok. How often do law enforcement entities that have obtained warrants gone back to reassess what they provided the court? How many other times has the DOJ taken similar actions with regard to highly secretive FISA warrants? There’s something big we don’t know (yet). Between Flynn’s conduct in his case and this, the question arises whether a full scale assault on prosecutions brought by the SCO is beginning. Barr would have no hesitation.

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Something stinks here.

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Turley called it last month:


Not a fan, but the guy is right long before anyone else in most cases.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t the last three FISA Warrants approved after 1/20/17 when trump was potus?

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What is this “justice department” of which you speak?

Such a thing exists?

All I see is a fat crook in a clown suit blowing a fat crook in a clown suit.

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There have been complaints about the FISA process for years.
…and I don’t doubt they continued here.

But remember:

  1. The first warrant was issued on October 21st 2016, long after Page had any connection with the campaign and just two weeks before the election.

2, Former Trump Campaign Manager, Corey Lowendowski:
"To the best of my recollection I don’t know Carter Page. He had no formal role in the campaign. I have no authority over a “low level volunteer.”

  1. "You never met Mr. Trump, nor did you ever ‘advise’ Mr. Trump about anything. You are thus not an ‘advisor’ to Mr. Trump in any sense of the word.” Don McGahn, White House Counsel for U.S. President Donald Trump in a ‘cease and desist’ letter to Carter Page.

4."It’s obvious that he wants to earn lots of money. I will feed him empty promises. … You promise a favor for a favor. You get the documents from him and tell him to go fuck himself. I think he is an idiot.” …SVR agent Victor Podobnyy on FBI wiretap discussing Carter Page. Now, was Page working with the CIA at the time? Was the FBI kept out of the loop? Or was Page caught in a compromising place and spilled the beans? Its all unknown.

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" DOJ Acknowledged 2 Out Of 4 FISA Warrants To Monitor Carter Page Were Invalid"

Just gives Carlson and Hannity more issues to divert from the impeachment hearings that they have been doing all week.

Does this mean Carter Page has won the lawsuit lottery?