Discussion for article #224652
I saw that article. I like Fineman a lot, but this total bullshit. It’s stunningly stupid. I support HRC 100% and I have no interest in buying her book. It’s just not something that interests me.
Misleading title. Both articles state that Hillary’s sales are really underwhelming and disappointing. She is lagging way behind Obama’s sales and sales for her previous book. She is ahead of the horrible book sales for some Republicans though. Not sure that is all that impressive when you consider that her name recognition is much, much higher than theirs and her book got a lot more free publicity than theirs did.
If Hillary was using the book tour and sales to determine whether or not she should run, I’d hope she is going to decline to run. There just isn’t enough enthusiasm for her run. I’d rather see the Democrats nominate a better and younger candidate.
I still say Hillary is a paper tiger no matter how much MSNBC and the left netroots are pushing her inevitability.
However, if she wins the nomination, I will of course vote for her. I just hope we have a better nominee.
Fineman, has fallin’ outta’ the media tree and couldn’t get up, but soft landed with shill monger and successful uber grifter Arianna (Ex GOP wife) to actually get paid.
Better he was working for a journalism based site like this one.
Or maybe people are just not that tuned in to 2016 campaign narratives just yet? The comparison to Obama’s book sales is facile: he was a new phenomenon people wanted to learn about. Hillary is already well-known… and strongly supported. It’s hardly surprising fewer people want her book, especially well before the election. (And it is a best-seller for all that.)
Large parts of the media desperately want a “Clinton tanking!” narrative, because “Hillary is going to easily win the nomination and probably win the presidency” is a lousy story to have to go with for the next 2+ years.
The sequel to Hard Choices, How I Proved the Pundits Wrong, will be a smash hit but the pundits won’t touch it due to it’s actual factual nature.
Hillary is an ever growing energy mass that all of the opinions by opinionaters can’t stop from growing. They want to, for some reason they need to, but alas-they can’t.
The advantage his books gave to President Obama was allowing him to put his story out to the public and alleviate any chance of unpleasant “discoveries” such as yes, he has tried drugs. I doubt very much that they “made his presidency” and I’d make a guess that a large fraction of the sales occurred once he was officially the candidate or even after his election. I’d like to think that the fact that his writings showed him to be a highly literate, thoughtful and intelligent man might have assisted his campaign but I doubt that helped much since wanting to have a beer with the candidate is clearly more important.
“To that end, “Correct the Record,” a rapid response team launched last year by the Democratic super PAC American Bridge and led by a host of Clinton loyalists, blasted an email Wednesday that sought to, well, correct the record on the book sales.”
A thorough job of “ghost busting”.
Any non-fiction book that sells over 160,000 copies in three weeks is a best-seller.
I’m normally okay with Fineman, but he’s not only wrong, he’s making himself look foolish by promoting this absolute bullshit.
Fineman was probably embarrassed at how easy it was to make him look like a partisan shill. Within the same news cycle, no less!
Can’t compare to HRC’s first book because it’s a totally different world now. “Living History” came out in 2002, 12 years ago, and much water has gone under the Media bridge since.
I would even say I am no longer sure if Books are even relevant any more to the millions of Americans who’ve reached voting age since 2002. If it was a YouTube, an App, on InstaGram, or Pinterest, or even a long piece in a online magazine? Maybe.
Maybe most Americans are simply not interested in foreign policy! My take on the book is that it s 95% full of foreign policy during Hillary’s term as SofS, and maybe 5% personal. For the American public who have made the Kardashians what they are today, gossip and intrigue that they can understand is more easily and radily digested than stories about stuff happening in other countries.
I’ll get my copy at the local library (although the waiting list is VERY long)!
The media will find any excuse to drag Hillary Clinton down. Howard Fineman is a Debbie downer on anything the President does or democrats in general. Sometimes I think he is a republican troll.
I saw that article, started reading it and quit midway through as it seemed a rather silly metric for determining who or what makes a viable or seriously considered POTUS based on book sales. I used to like Fineman when he worked for Newsweek. He’s really become more of a political contrarian of sorts these days, and the click-bait at HP doesn’t lend much credibility to his narratives anymore, at least not like it used to when he actually put some thought into his writing. He’s a horse-race Tweety-type now. Not much depth to that.
P.S. One thing I believe is that Hillary doesn’t have her books being bought up and warehoused behind the scenes, to show inflated sales numbers somehow indicating a book’s popularity, as have other political personalities hawking their books. Plenty have done that you know.
Are these people aware that this is Hillary’s second book? Her first book, “Living History,” sold over a million copies.
I doubt she or anyone else are worried about her new book, “Hard Choices,” having only been the number one selling book for a week. That’s better than most politicians’ books get.
Just ordered Hard Choices from Amazon. Thanks for reminding me!
Just can’t admit that maybe Obama’s book had an actual real live story and new perspective to tell that was not merely a vapid presidential run campaign piece, can they?
Obama’s book is an outlier, and can’t be used to judge anything.
The press, as well as their Conservative owners, and the faux-liberal concern trolls as well as the real bubble-dwelling liberals they try to mock, are determined to crown a Republican president.
This time, Hillary is our best worst option. Then we can go all in for Warren in 2024. But we must prevent the Teabaggers from getting a toehold in the WH.
I’m on a long waiting list for it at my local library. Wonder if that counts towards book sales…Ummmm, I don’t think so, in fact, I know so. So Fineman can stick that in his pipe and smoke it.
Succinctly put, Ms. Pluck. You can easily support someone for election and have no interest whatsoever in reading a tome of their achievements. Indeed, the last non-fiction book I read that featured the exploits of a future president was PT 109.
You forgot to mention that many, maybe most if not all, books written by Conservatives are usually bought in bulk by Conservative organizations to give the appearance of high sales numbers.
Like the following example: http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.ca/2009/09/conservative-bulk-book-buying-machine.html