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“I respect the fact that he wants to spend more time with his family,” Buck said. " we will be keeping them in an undisclosed location - where he will get to see them - as long as he does what he is told"

I still can’t believe Ryan might agree to be speaker, if only because there’s so little upside for him and plenty of headaches. But he’s actually wrong for making the demand that they can’t replace him if they’re angry with him. If I were Ryan, I’d want it well known that if they didn’t approve of the job I was doing, they could keep it and be stuck trying to find a new speaker. In fact, I’d want them to know that if they gave me too much gruff, I’d step down at any time.

After all, that’s the main leverage he has right now and it’s one he’ll keep. They need him far more than he needs them, and the whole reason they’d make concessions now is because they fear they won’t get him as speaker. And well…he’d do best to keep that leverage, since these bozos have a history of pretending they’ll make concessions just to back down when it’s time to finalize things. So if Ryan wants to keep them to their concessions, he needs to keep his leverage too. Don’t vote the way he wants you to, he’ll step down. That needs to be the threat hanging over them at all times.

That Ryan request for two pairs of underwear was the deal breaker apparently.

At some point pretty soon the House majority is going to have to have a vote on which House minority gets to make all the rules. Otherwise, bitch bitch bitch.

What Ryan’s asked for is actually reasonable. He wants a defense against his capricious removal. He’ll meet with these clowns and they’ll decide he’s fine. He’ll become Speaker and change nothing.

“I don’t like a ban on taking down a speaker until the next election two years later, no,” Buck said.

Funny, I feel the same way about these Republicans.

Kenny is one of those Ultimate Teabaggers. When he was running against Sen. Michael Bennett back in 2010, which was a GOP year, he blew the election by saying this in range of a hot mic when a Birther said the President wasn’t born in this country:

Ed Zachary!

“I respect the fact that he wants to spend more time with his family,” Buck said. “I think that money is played too big a role in politics in D.C. and I think the less fundraising he does the better the not just appearance but reality of how he’s going to do his job.”

He then uttered under his breath “That large dispersal of dollars from the Speakers office should continue to flow from the Speaker’s office unabated, because increasing money in without raising money is the cornerstone of today’s American far right conservatism”

Well, yeah…obviously this demand is the deal breaker for both sides. The Freedom Caucus can’t accept it because its the very basis of all of their power; its how the ousted Boehner. Remove that and they have to resort to lower profile disruptive measures.

Ryan can’t accept their demand because its the sword being held over his, and every other Speaker’s head with these guys. There is no viable way to govern with them threatening to toss you out at every turn.

Its the escape clause for Ryan, and why he made it. And I don’t think the Freedom Caucus will accept it. A Speakerless House suits them just fine.

How about we compromise and just make it easier to excise the Freedom Caucus much like an invasive tumor that’s encased itself around vital organs?

Ah, but that’s the point - he doesn’t want to be Speaker! By making these demands, which he knows he won’t get, he can say he tried, but it just didn’t work out. There’s no way he wants to be Speaker as it would be political/career suicide and he has much higher aspirations.

The math is in Ryan’s favor. He needs 218. There are 247 GOP’ers and of them 36 Freedom Caucus’ers. He only needs about 10 of the Freedom boys and he’s in.

Translation: “We want to keep the rules just as they are so that our very vocal but very tiny minority can threaten a sitting Speaker whenever something doesn’t go our way.”

I get him mixed up with the “lies straight from the pit of hell” guy.

I’d bet good money that Buck also agreed with the Citizens United decision.

The unspoken implication is that less time spent fundraising means more time spent twisting wealthy donors’ arms, and less time soliciting among the general public.

What Ryan is basically saying is, “You really need me to be Speaker more than I need to be Speaker”. The GOP needs a big name to be Speaker. They can’t just put some nobody up. Rep Ryan, except for the hard left, is viewed positively by most Americans and the GOP needs to have a new face of leadership.

I really wonder what has happened to the GOP when someone who was touted as a rising conservative star when Romney picked him as his VP, to a liberal establishment RINO.

These loons would have primaried Reagan in 1984.

One can only hope this continues for a couple more weeks at least. Ship of fools.

Why would these reactionaries give away they only real leverage by altering the rules on motions to remove the Speaker?

That would be politically slitting your own throat while taping a “kick me hard” sign onto your own back. The second they canve on that is the second these clowns get permanently neutered.