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I believe that this is the first example in history where a Christian took a not-quite-true story as gospel - so to speak.

The name of the student doesn’t really change much to his story, but the bigger problem is that I don’t think she was being forced to deny her faith in order to stay alive. I think they just asked her if she believed and then shot her. So the entire intent of Santorum’s story is wrong, since it wasn’t about someone being killed for refusing to reject God.

Moreover, Davis wasn’t being asked to deny God or be fired and ridiculed. It was whether or not she’d do her job. And since her first position was that her office couldn’t give any marriage certificates and she’s now caved on that by allowing them to be given with an unofficial disclaimer, all she’s done is proven that her $80k a year salary is more important than affirming what she says her beliefs are.

So Santorum didn’t get the story quite right.

Neither did Tapper. As an elected official, Davis can’t be fired.

Both Graham and Santorum are not batting well here. Bad analogy (not just wrong on the danged details, Mr. Santorum). Bad analogy because nobody is asking Kim Davis to die for her beliefs – though she and her lawyers and her supporters sure are acting as if that’s the case. Nobody wants the woman dead, dude!–Everyone just wants her to do her damn job … you know, the one she’s paid to do and that she collects a pretty nice paycheck to do.

Damn, you people reach a lot. Get off the cross – somebody needs the wood to build a home or a school or to keep warm this winter. Seriously, you guys are not a victim and aren’t being persecuted.

“Today, someone who refuses to defy a judge’s unconstitutional verdict
is ridiculed and criticized, chastised, because she’s standing up and
not denying her God and her faith,” he continued. “That is a huge
difference in 16 years.”

A judge following a SCOTUS decision is not being unConstitutional Ricky.
Besides Ricky, the issue wasn’t her faith. It was that she would not do her GODDAM JOB!

If the verdict had gone the other way, clowns like Frothy would have called it ‘constitutional’ until they were blue in the face.

And how come Davis forced her clerks to not issue the licenses either? Why is THAT okay?

“Today, someone who refuses to defy a judge’s unconstitutional verdict is ridiculed and criticized…”

I kinda think Santorum doesn’t actually know what “Constitutional” means, I do believe that it is the Constitution that provides for the Supreme Court as the final arbiter of what is exactly, um…constitutional.

What an ass!

Ricky then started talking about his love of Reagan

“Today, someone who refuses to defy a judge’s unconstitutional verdict is ridiculed and criticized, chastised, because she’s standing up and not denying her God and her faith,” he continued.

Does Santorum even know what he’s saying? I don’t think so. Davis isn’t refusing to defy the verdict – she’s refusing to follow the verdict.

A Christian twisting the truth to suit his own agenda?

Why I NEVER!

It’s my understanding as a nonlawyer that a judge would be bound by a SCOTUS decision. If the Supreme Court says, based on their understanding of the 14th amendment that marriage equality is a right then the federal judge must rule in favor of the folks who want to get married and not Kim Davis. The specific language is:

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Santorum is unhealthily fixated on issues of sex. One wonders if it masks an "inner pervert."

Now we know why Santorum and his ilk were never contestants on “Are You Smarter Than A Fourth-Grader?” These effers are amazingly resiliently obtuse.

The gene pool is more of a puddle.

Not to mention that being shot and having gay people getting married aren’t really the same thing.

It doesn’t matter how wilfully ignorant he is.

His chances of winning the nomination are none and none.

I hope this doesn’t escape folks. Santorum did this with full knowledge that was h e said was false. It wasn’t a mistake and he did not misspeak. He knew that what he said was not true but that did not stop him from bearing false witness and taking the Lords name in vain. A blasphemous twofer for Santorum. I do hope that is not lost.

I had to stifle a snort and a few boots, because I was in public, when Salt forum was solemnly warning us that Iran is a special danger, because they believe in bringing about End Times.

Edit: hoots, not boots. My device is being Republican about letting me correct it

This is Category Five Horseshit.

When Santorum said this my eyes rolled more than a bowling ball on it’s way to make a strike on the brooklyn side.

For starters, here’s what Bernall said when Dylan Klebold looked under the table in the library where she was hiding and praying to her useless God.

That’s right, she didn’t say a damned thing. Klebold looked under the table and shot her. That comes from Emily Wyant. who was hiding under the table with Bernall, not praying and was not shot. Wyant told Bernall’s parents this, she told the investigators this and she told the Rocky Mountain News this. She was horrified by Columbine and the mushrooming of the Bernall Legend into the grotesque form Santorum used. And if Santorum actually gave two hoots about the people he wants to represent, as his religion SAYS he should, he’d bother to check that out. It is not hard.

The person Klebold DID ask the question of was Valeen Schnurr, who had been wounded previously. Klebold asked her if she was a Christian while he was reloading his gun, and then asked her why. When she told him she’d been brought up that way, he wordlessly walked off.

Making a connection between poor Bernall, who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed because of it and the likes of Davis who was NOT shot or jailed for being a Christan, but rather jailed for being a scoffaw is not only wrong, it’s immoral.