Discussion for article #236776
It’s the American swastika.
Burn em all.
To racists, there is never an opportune moment for your victims to air their grievances.
" …put into a box and burned before the ashes
were scattered across a wetlands pond …"
A cesspool would have been more appropriate.
Would it have killed the writer of this article to have identified who “WSMV” is? Is it a television or radio station? Some sort of activist group? What?
I don’t hold with revisionism. The flag is a symbol and, like it or not, thousands of Americans died under it. They were wrong, and history has bypassed their cause, but it still happened and needs to be commemorated. Burying it means we forget all of that history, and thus are doomed to repeat it.
Actually, burning and burying the ashes is the proper way to dispose of the Untied States Flag.
The Confederate Flag does not deserve the same courtesy.
“A lot of lives have been lost around this confederate flag,” Allen said. “If you don’t see the hate that comes along with it, that has come along with it, if you don’t see the racism behind what has been founded with the usage of it, then you’re ignoring it.”
Unremarked, and likely unknown to most concerned, is that the only lives lost around the “Confederate flags” they were apparently burning were the victims of modern (i.e. post 1915) Klan violence. The only flag used by the CSA that bore any resemblance to those things people call “Confederate flags” today was its naval jack, and that one used a much lighter shade of blue and had a bigger cross with bigger stars.
The “Confederate flag” as we know it today is, in fact, an emblem of racism made up by antebellum racists for the purpose of glorifying racism and rallying people to the cause of racist terrorism. So yeah, burn baby burn. All for it.
Of course, one might say that of the real Confederate national flags as well . . .
South lost; get over it.
Burying it and burning that flag means that we – finally – giver recognition to what it really stood for and don’t get duped like many who fought under it.
No it doesn’t. That trite expression is not at all accurate or applicable in the context of this story.
Not entirely true. The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (Lee’s army) was what most people erroneously call the “Confederate flag” as well (albeit it was square and not in rectangular proportion). The Army of Tennessee had the same flag only in the more familiar rectangular proportion of most national flags.
That same design was also used as part of both the second and third national flag designs for the CSA.
So it wasn’t just the Confederate Naval Jack.
"That’s a day for the soldiers,” John Adams told the station.
Who the fuck is John Adams?
Depends on how much significance you put on the difference between square and rectangle, I guess. You’re right about the Army of Tennessee battle flag. I stand corrected. But still never the national flag.
They didn’t publicize it well. I would have gone to the one in Orlando.
We all know what the flag represents, whatever its shape or shade of blue. More importantly, we know who holds tight to it today, and why they do so. The Racist Sons of Confederate Veterans can splutter all they want.
I enjoyed learning a little about the work of this John Sims guy, such as his “The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag” piece:
Yeeeaaaaah! Time to burn that traitorous a$$ wipe of a flag to a crisp, You hear me Johnny Reb??!!!
YES! That’s the proper way!!
Isn’t this just another sort of “Knowing what we know now …” kind of question?
Correct. Though it was used as the canton for the second national flag: “The Stainless Banner” as well as the third national flag: “The Blood-Stained Banner”.
But yes, most people do incorrectly identify the battle flag (and variations thereof) as the national flag of the Confederacy. It even shows up wrongly used as the national flag of the Confederacy in a lot of movies and television shows as well.