Discussion: Zinke Says ‘Konnichiwa’ To Japanese-American Senator

I would suggest it’s in the pheromones, that oily sheen seems to give it away.

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Did she return the gesture by saying Sieg Heil back to him?

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Zinke seems like the kind of guy who would impress his friends by farting in class.

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I can’t find one. Everybody seems to be devoted to snark and personal put downs, and commenters are mostly trolls, bots and true believers who only appreciate the party line. TPM seems to be the best of the bunch. Right, left or in between the Donald Trump and Fox News model is ascendant.

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trump hires only the best people…

Yeah, I kind of regret seeing it. I was really disturbed watching it, and images have stuck with me. But then again, maybe horror just isn’t my genre! :smile:

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Maybe there is an over sensitivity here…Perhaps he wanted to show off how smart he thinks himself by showing he knows a Japanese word. Trying to impress –

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It’s scary in the way that classic horror films used to be. There aren’t people jumping out with knives everywhere, there’s little blood, no gratuitous violence. It’s mostly psychological.
What makes it so good and so scary is that it just rings true. Every PoC who has ever dated outside their race has experienced some level of this and some fear of what some overly accommodating white folks might really be thinking. But it’s definitely worth watching. I’m not into scary movies at all, and yet I’ve seen it three times.

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I think so. I think his greeting was a slightly clumsy attempt to be respectful of her ancestors, who (as she had pointed out in her question) got no respect even from the likes of FDR.

And far more important, his substantive response to her inquiry was not only respectful, it was helpful.

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Same here. Thanks.

I thought “pendejo” was translated as “stable genius”. :joy:

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As I huge movie buff (or “cinemaphile” if I want to get pretentious) I can say that 2017 saw the release of two landmark American horror movies: “Get Out” and “Mother!” both genre breaking works of genius.

Of the two “Get Out” is the bigger genius, and by far the most important. It puts the horror genre into the service of social commentary.

I have not seen it specifically called out elsewhere, but the maid’s monologue in the movie is a masterpiece of psychological horror - Betty Gabriel should have been nominated for a supporting actress role at the Academy Awards.

And absolutely Jordan Peele deserved the Oscar for his screenplay - I had hoped the movie would win best picture.

(Also often not mentioned - Get Out has some really funny parts.)

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Her entire question was about Japanese-American heritage. She wasn’t asking a question about Yellowstone Park and he just threw in a “hey, you look Japanese to me, so watch this.” She was arguing for money that would support preserving the history of Japanese American internment. Certainly, he didn’t have to say anything. If he didn’t think so much of himself, he would not have. One could read his comment as an attempt to say I have enough respect for your culture, and that part of American history that I am showing some respect. Or maybe I am just sucking up to you.

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The best way to do that would be to answer her question. Period.

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The commentary has different levels to it. The “dating white folks” experience is just one, there is also the reflection on the nature of slavery as a separate one.

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Maybe. He is a person who thinks a lot of himself, so my take is that he is showing off, not denigrating her.

Her question was entirely about her own Japanese heritage. She called attention to it, not him.

I think Zinke is a horses ass, but this story is seeking outrage out of context.

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Damn, that is relaxing.

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I guess I’m surprised anyone’s defending Zinke. I’d like to celebrate the Senator a little more though.

Hanabusa then corrected Zinke, saying she thought it was still morning— “I think it’s still ‘ohayo gozaimasu,’ but that‘s OK,” she said, referencing the phrase for “good morning.”

I think the kids now call that “good shade.” We would have said she clowned him pretty hard. It’s like little white boys had been thoughtlessly saying that to her since she was in third grade or something.

Pwnd.

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I thought she was fantastic, but now I want to rewatch that scene specifically. Thanks for pointing out a parallel I hadn’t really explored.

Also, yes, Get Out is at times hilarious as hell.

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I think that is what amps up the offense. She related a painful personal story and then asked a pointed question about whether funding for these sites would be restored since the president had “zeroed them out”. Zimkes response? “oh hi”

You can parse his command of Japanese and try and argue it’s not really racist-racist if you want, but the plain truth is the secretary of the interior showed distain for congress and indifference to the sites he is charged with stewarding. That is news. That is a scandal.

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