Discussion: WTF? Experts Stumped By New Finding On O-Care And Uninsured

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Imagine a world where Democrats didn’t sulk in their rooms or contemplate their navels or whatever the fuck else they were doing in 2010 rather than voting. In that world, we’d have seen a large number of PSA’s on primetime for weeks before and during open enrollment explaining the law and telling them where to find out more.

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How can anyone profess to be “surprised” with this and keep a straight face? Who the hell do you think told these folks they were ineligible? The same folks that tell them to vote on Monday. Come on!

Just one little GOP’er in a position to “advise” these people can sand bag 100’s of applications. It’s in their political interests to keep enrollment numbers as low as they can. If these results “surprise” you get out of any position that requires you to deal with them.

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Hmmmmmm…

I’ve always thought that the irony of all ironies is that the ACA IS what the GOP is lying about: patient centered, market based health insurance. In essence, it’s the average American that has to take the initiative to get info. on what they’re eligible for and, if not, find out why not. Not just sit back and shrug their shoulders; take the next few steps to find out how can they get insured. And if they STILL can’t get insured, understand that voting is probably the next step in getting their representative to make it happen.

Fox news tells their minions that the ACA (a/k/a/ Obamacare) is socialism. A socialist system doesn’t have to rely on the average person’s stupidity or apathy. Unfortunately, the Democratic Party doesn’t understand that, in many ways, PR is 99% of the game. But the Dems rely on Americans being able to get information, analyze that information and make cogent choices therein. The GOP has never made that mistake about their base.

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Casualties of the mistaken belief that more states would set up their own exchanges.

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Well that settles it then, Obummer care is a failure and the whole thing ought to be shitcanned so that nobody gets insurance…fuckum all! Oops, I think I prematurely spoiled the Re-pubic-cans joyful announcement.

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On the other hand, this lays out a pretty clear agenda for the next round of public service publicity. If you thought at first you weren’t covered, make sure to check again. Things may have changed.

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Totally misleading title and article.

100% of Americans are ELIGIBLE to BUY medical insurance. Insurance companies cannot deny them coverage. NO EXCEPTIONS.

What they may NOT be eligible for are either Medicare or tax subsidies. 90% of those that are not eligible for those two things are in red states that refused to create their own exchanges and/or they chose to not expand Medicare in their own states (purely to phuq that nigga).

So that’s working exactly as designed - nothing to do with Obama.

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And just think…with single payer, none of this idiocy would be an issue.

We can thank Max Baucus for not even allowing the idea to be considered, although the guest list of health care
lobbyists at Max’s annual steak and trout fest prior to the drafting of Obamacare pretty much made sure that wasn’t going to happen anyway.

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I doubt that. There’s no ratings to be had in that.

Were told by whom? Were they told by the website? That’s fixable. Were they told by paid ambassadors? That’s a real problem. The article doesn’t really say, and only about 2/3 of the way through says the survey didn’t follow through on HOW these people were told they were ineligible.

But if they were told by FOX News, their local GOP, their anti-choice pharmacist, radio waves from Mars, or whatever else out there, I’m not surprised. The GOP blocked funding for programs that would have educated people, so they were left on their own to figure it out.

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Grayson warned you the Republican plan was to kill people.

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Keep in mind, a lot of people who were previously eligible for medicaid, but not enrolled, ended up enrolling because of the publicity about Obamacare, even in the states that did not expand medicaid.

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Yesiree, Bob. That’s exactly what happened.

Airing PSA’s isn’t optional.

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30 million people don’t pay attention to the news. They wouldn’t get liability auto insurance if it didn’t bite them in the ass when they’re stopped for a traffic violation.

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I totally understand how this happened. ( Warning: As an insurance agent, I have a vested interest in getting people qualified. ) People who answer phones at the 800-318-2596 line will only put in the information you give them, then spit out the results. Same thing when you go to these “navigators” for help. However, insurance agents that have been doing this for 2enrollment periods should know ways to tweak your information, legally, to get you qualified for a subsidy, which should lead to getting covered. But 1. most people dont know how to do it or 2. most people dont care to take the time to learn these tweaks to do it.

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The problem is our “culture of non-insurance”…people haven’t ever had coverage, they don’t even know what insurance is, or what it does, or why to even have it. It’s maddening, but we need a massive education campaign on this, because we need 100% coverage, ultimately.

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"30 percent said that it was still too expensive. Another 33 percent gave another reason, which covers a range of possibilities, including ideological opposition to the law or they didn’t finish their application. "

IOW, moochers, idiots and dirtbags.

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