Discussion: WSJ: Trump Counties Among Those That Have Benefited Most From Obamacare

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ā€œIf Mr. Trump keeps his campaign promise to scrap and replace the ACA, communities that gave him some of his biggest margins would likely see the biggest impact,ā€ the Journal said.

Only befitting.

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Those voters may actually have to do something in their own interest for a change. They need to be the ones to organize and let Trump know they don’t want the ACA repealed. Why should the progressive groups do all the work? It’s their fault we are in this situation.

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Trump: My supporters do not want to be happy. They dont want a black guy or any democrat doing anything for them.They want a pathetic life and bunch of guns so they can kill others they perceive as a threat.

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Well, they really won’t have to worry about that anymore, will they. At least until their hospitals close down.

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Yes, all our friends in the rural(ish) Midwest…

this election was all about YOOOOOOOOU!

(How many times will I get to laugh at you just today?)

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There’s such a debate in my mind and heart right now. There’s a part of me that wants those people to be helped and there’s another part that hopes they get screwed good and hard without any lube.

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And then when they are without insurance, or looking at rocketing premiums and decreased coverage, choosing between food for their kids and adding to an insurance corps bottom line, screaming, Hey, what in tarnation happen’?!, GOP will blame Obama / care, FOX will lead with it and msm will follow, do false equivalency. Rinse, wash, repeat, say goodbye. (Idiots.)

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Many of the same people who wore those ā€œHillary for Prison 2016ā€ shirts will just blame her and Obama for losing their health care. Stupid is as stupid does.

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ā€œThat reality may be behind Mr. Trump’s expressed interest in holding onto at least parts of the law, particularly provisions that bar insurers from denying insurance on the basis of preexisting conditions and which allow people to keep their older children on parents’ plans.ā€

It occurs to me that while these are very important provisions that provide coverage to many, they probably aren’t the aspects most benefiting the most number of Americans. Things like the contraceptive provisions for women and various $0 copay, preventative care probably save people a lot more money than anything else. Those things will be gone.

That said I still don’t think they’ll have the votes. There are too many states that accepted the Medicaid expansion or some form of it and just entirely too many people currently benefiting from the law to yank it out from under them. Yes, I’m fully aware that Republican lawmakers don’t give a shit about people dying or who gets hurt in the process. I get that. but I also know if there’s one thing they care about it’s getting reelected. And I’ve gotta believe there are at least 3 Republicans in the Senate who would make the calculation that repeal without immediately replacing with something as good or better would give Democrats a huge issue to run on and would cost them their job.

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Excellent, they should be the first to reap the ā€œbenefitsā€ of their vote. I am not sad about it, I am glad. Taken in by propaganda willfully. They truly believe they will not be affected by this, only the browns will be affected. So basically, they get exactly what they deserve. While their children do not deserve this, the only way to learn this lesson, obviously is the hard way. So, let them learn it the hard way.

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If Trump voters - and Democrats that did not get out and vote for Hillary - had only screwed up their own lives, well, I’d probably get some dark satisfaction out of that (even as to my own cousins). But, with him as President, we are all duly fucked. Obviously, I’m not in the top 1% or I’d be much more optimistic.

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Maybe it plays out with them spending a few weeks very upset by what the R’s are doing and then Trump not signing the bill in the end. Also the Trump voters on Medicare who have children and grandchildren benefiting from the ACA will agonize over the potential loss of coverage for their family.

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I think they believe somewhere deep in their hearts that the Democrats will protect them. I think some of that has been going on for a long time now. They think they can vote for whatever Republican promises to hurt the most minorities because some force will be there to stop Republicans from hurting them personally. Maybe they don’t actually identify that force as being specifically the Democrats, but that does seem to be the calculation. It’s kind of what KY voters used to do until recently. We’d send the most regressive, repugnant, pieces of shit to DC and elect Democrats to run our state. Soon, Republicans will control both state and federal government. Eastern KY, shit’s about to get truly real for you.

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fwiw, i am in the top 1% and i am not optimistic at all.

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Well, that’s reassuring.

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What morons. Suddenly I am actually hoping they do scrap Obamacare! It will affect everyone so severely, and the greedy insurers will overreach so far that the whole system will collapse.

Get ready to muffle screams of rural Kentuckians, and Native Americans. Are people really this dumb? Wait, don’t answer that.

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May ā€˜Trump counties’ hereafter be referred to as a ā€˜Confederacy of Suckers’.

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