Discussion: Women May Eventually Be Registering For Draft In Name of Equality

How 'bout we just get rid of the silly requirement that 18-year-old males have to register? Seriously, does registering do any good? And the registration process can and does do actual harm. Guys who neglect to register are ineligible for a bunch of federal benefits.

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I’ll be sure to work on it. I assumed that it was a pretty obvious reference to all the wars where we lost significant numbers of GIs. It wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense to be applicable now.

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Back in the days when disco was king (or queen as the case may be) the restrooms were by default unisex. There were too many needs to be attended to to have to wait for the proper His or Her to be available. This woman occasionally goes into a one-seater as a last resort.

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I agree that the draft, or conscription more generally, is a thing of the past. Weaponry has outmoded mass infantry. The rationale for the draft in WWII was due to having to retake and occupy large masses of land full of cities, towns and villages in western Europe and SE Asia, until the invaders were defeated and locals could take over their own security (or live alongside the imposition of ours) and reassert peaceful domestic control. Except for places like the former Yugoslavia, that model’s been dead since the Korean War. Viet Nam proved we couldn’t rely on it over large swaths of the planet.

While on the one hand McHugh seems to want to leave some ‘comforting’ message about his and presumably as the Army general staff’s views on gender equality, that he would use a long-ago outmoded tool to center his remarks around is dismaying.

Hasn’t he read Use of Weapons? Doesn’t he understand robotics? Has he paid NO attention to war tactics since WWII? I think the answer to all those is, No, but it’s irrelevant anyway, because what these remarks were really about was increasing the institutional power of the Army in particular and the U.S. military generally. The founders and the participants in the Congressional Conventions were genuinely concerned at the possibility Washington (George) would use the presidency to take control of the country’s domestic polity. McHugh’s remarks here concern me in that same general direction. How did the Republic of Rome fall? It fell to a general in control of the biggest army. That’s been a common scenario for thousands of years, and so-called modernity hasn’t achieved much to limit it. Even in the western world, we’ve seen many military dictators in South America and even in Europe, most recently with Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, and now effectively Putin in even the most westernized parts of Russia.

We’ve had periodic legitimate concerns about military takeover here for a century now - particularly in the early 1930s and in the first half decade following WWII. I actually think it’s the most likely outcome once the Republicans finally succeed in dismantling federal government and taking down the economy. And if ANY of these Republican idiots now running for president were to win, I would reevaluate that chance closer to absolute.

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Like hell.

You said:

“Seriously. If you kill a lot of enlisted and the women who give birth, it’s a population issue.”

Present tense. Just admit it or let it go.

And the 80 + percent of the population would think twice about using us as cannon fodder.

They should have to sign up for it thought when they are 18.

Did you read the same article that I did?

There is a vast array of federal benefits and services that will be denied to men unless they register for the draft, including financial aid and loans for school. It’s fundamentally unfair, and registration should be discontinued. Failing that, it’s just common sense that the requirement be applied equally.

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Nothing to admit. I’m of the age where I haven’t ever seen wars that took the lives of large numbers of soldiers like Vietnam and the WWs. This was the driving policy to keep women out of the draft back then. The loss of tens of thousands of young men AND the corresponding women of the same age could have been devastating. Whether we are overpopulated or not, it’s was an economic issue. It wouldn’t make any sense for me to argue that now when we rarely lose servicemen in war because we rarely fight ground wars.

I also went on to explain what I meant in three separate answers after I wrote my response. You haven’t ever been taken wrong or had to clarify in this board before now? I hope they cut you some slack.

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He’s right, and I support that idea.

They can make reasonable accommodations for women, such as granting exemptions for women with small children, etc.

We need a draft - people will be less likely to cheer for war if THEIR asses could be in the line of fire.

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Grow up. Future tense.

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Hey, I like that idea! Want a gun? Show us you’re serious about being part of a militia and pay your dues. Meanwhile, get legitimate weapons training and a fitness evaluation (mental and physical). That should weed out the crazies.

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Many public restrooms in Europe are unisex. I haven’t really heard any hue and cry about it. It certainly would resolve the issue of which bathroom transgender people can use.

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Finally! Yes women should be required to register.

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GOOD. It’s about F’n time that happened.
Maybe then the Reich-Wingers will think twice about committing American Soldiers to war.
(of course that means LOTS more deferments for the Wealthy and those “with other priorities” like DICK CHENEY)

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I’m not so sure of that; women are generally considered of less value than men. After all, they’re just sluts and so can serve an important need of men in the service, but they’re interchangeable and dispensable. Kind of the way men have always tended to think of us.

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Sorry, but they only pretend to respect women, motherhood and all that. Money trumps all. They’ll still send others to war if the bottom line looks good.

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Here’s the thing…The elimination of the draft is probably the biggest driving factor in our recent rush to use of military force. An all-volunteer army is disproportionately made up of poor youth who can’t find any other jobs. The promise of “three hots and cot” is enough to get them to enlist. No other jobs are available, thanks to the greed of false “job creators.”

And then, once we have an army made up of the disenfranchised and poor, the politicians are FAR more likely to use it that if it was made up of donor’s offspring, corporate honcho’s kids, trust fund babies, etc.

Pols don’t have any real “skin in the game” when it comes to putting troops in harm’s way.

Now, don;'t take this as an endorsement for reinstating the draft, rather, take it as a indictment of the way Washington has made a majority of Americans second class citizens, and a subset of those, merely an expendable group of cannon fodder.

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Making baby soldiers for future wars?

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