Discussion: With Roles Reduced, Kushner And Ivanka Trump's Fate Uncertain

Leaving for airport. We know what that means. :sunglasses:

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What’s your gut tell you—indictment? of a new person?

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With any luck they will soon be making license plates

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This is a very poorly written article that attempts to paint the Kushner problems as merely palace intrigue issues.

For example, Kushner loses his security clearance because of Porter beating his ex-wives and Kelly trying to cover up his own complicity in that. Poor Jared.

Except the real underlying problem there is Jared can’t get security clearance because he is massively and deeply compromised by foreign entities and has been completely unwilling to even be forthcoming about his relationships or finances. No palace intrigue created any of that problem.

Ivanka is portrayed as the champion of women, that just gets (unfairly) beaten up by little mistakes that the administration makes. Poor Ivanka.

Except she isn’t. She is a massive enabler of the misogynistic tendencies in the WH, has done absolutely nothing except to make vague, empty statements aimed at keeping the media promoting her, and is up to her neck in her own problems. Like having her company being used as a front of international diamond smuggling by terrorists organization. Or disappearing labor investigators investigating her sweat shops.

Sorry, but screw this whole Poor Javanka tone. The only stories on them that should be published are deep dives into their corruption.

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Kelly, in turn, has been angered by what he views as the couple’s freelancing. He blames them for changing Trump’s mind at the last minute and questions what exactly they do all day

‘Nuf said

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Ivanka and Jared’s fate could include fleeing Washington to wherever and hanging their heads in shame, but that would require they possess a sense of shame. I guess they’ll just have to wait for the hammer to come down on either or both of them.

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Ken and Barbie need to spend more time with their family.

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THIS!

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Well, I sincerely hope, if things really do go down the shithole for them, that at least the lovely and talented and beleaguered Ivanka will still have enough money left to pay the surgeon to remove that ginormous stick from her ass.

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…and I want Robert Mueller to investigate that thieving bitch Ivanka for stealing my kitchen tablecloth to make a dress out of.

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Hey, Jarvanka! Move back to Manhattan - they absolutely love you there! Take a nice moonlit stroll at night down the streets, and if the moon goes behind the clouds, your neighbors will gladly light your way with the torches they are carrying along with their pitchforks and barrels of tar and feathers.

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I agree. This article pisses me off. It implies I am supposed to have some sympathy for these two vain, corrupt, despicable people who are no better than Trump himself, and enable Trump to the nth degree. They do not even deserve to be shunned; they deserve to be jeered publicly and chased down the street by angry mobs. They deserve to have their assets seized and have to scrape by for a living like the people they and her father shit on constantly. Most of all, they deserve to be in prison.

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I’m happy to have sympathy—as soon as they are both kicked out of the White House.

Thank you for being a true American patriot.

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I think it’s fair to say that the headline should more accurately read, ‘With the Roles They Never Should Have Had Reduced, Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s Karmaic Fate is Certain’.

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According to Andrew Snyder, the key is listening:

Truly, it’s listening. I don’t set the agenda per se. Many of my clients are distressed about going to prison and being away from their families. My job is to listen to their concerns and consider what will be most helpful to ease their worries and prepare them for their incarceration. We anticipate the likely challenges they will face, inside and out of prison, and focus on building support from other family and friends, planning for release, and reuniting after incarceration.

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Ivanka’s fate?

Jared ???