Discussion: With No Votes Planned, Shutdown Likely To Persist Until Dems Take Over House

Too late many of us failed to recognize the combination of this to which you refer and its synchronization with the other parts of the coup launched against us.

I am not going to claim some sort of talent in prognostication. But, I have been in enough countries in which takeovers have occurred to be wary of same.

And I started feeling that Drumpf would be president on the day of Super Tuesday, 2016. Actually two days before, when I saw a big white Chevy Tahoe with the bumpersticker

                           **TRUMP**

It was actually the lying that made me think that, along with the volume of it and the audience to whom it was aimed. For the rest of the year I, along with all of us here, labored mightily to express ourselves logically, fairly and with integrity and I BET I am not alone with the narrative I am relating to you.

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Social Security will still be paid, so will Federal pensions - ironically, because they’re entitlements. They are considered multi-year commitments outside of the annual budget process for purposes of shutdowns (in other words, Congress doesn’t need to pass a law every year that says “pay SS benefits” - the funds and spending commitments are already in place - so they won’t be shut down.)

But the shut-down could impact trying to get benefits started, fix problems, etc.

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Our soldiers have received COLAs every year - but federal employees haven’t. Federal employees went without a raise for three years as part of the Sequester.

And I think the COLA begrudgingly planned by the Congress this year over trump’s objections is now put on hold because it’s part of the legislation stalled by trump - so even the civilians in the funded part of government won’t receive a cost-of-living raise as of January 1st.

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Sometimes words fail when trying to describe the depth and range of his lies. So many people enlist because they couldn’t find work or couldn’t afford an education so they really need to be rewarded just because they’re there and in harm’s way. They also make the perfect audience because they must turnout out for his appearance and show respect to him as CIC when he obviously doesn’t deserve it.

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As to a new budget, excerpt from NYT reporting on is it a wall or is a fence and negotiations on paying for it.

“There is not a one-size-fits-all solution — a wall, slats, whatever — and nobody who has ever looked at this question has said that that is the solution,” Senator Menendez D-NJ added.

And the alarming part.

While a final decision has not been made, Ms. Pelosi will most likely seek a swift vote on the legislation the House spurned before funding lapsed: the Senate’s stopgap spending bill would provide funding through Feb. 8, according to a House Democratic aide familiar with the negotiations.

Because next month will herald a new Congress, the Senate will have to pass it again. And there is no guarantee that Mr. Trump will sign it.

He will completely own the shutdown if he were to not sign it, which politically could only benefit Democrats, but 800,000 Federal employees are feeling the pain right now, and how much longer can they endure it.

@greylady @chelsea530 FYI

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Is the VA which serves the military he says he loves so much shut down as well?

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But will the Pathological Moron get his $5 Billion ?

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Yes, but also you have a bock of 38 Congressmen in the ‘Freedom Caucus’ that won’t be happy unless they take the country back to 1620. TheRepublicans never got that group under control.

Have the troops been asked about this ? Or do they think they will get it ?

Donald is apparently a psychopath, willing to say anything to get some adulation, but somewhere somebody must bear a grudge ?

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It’s just one more in the cascade of lies, kicked high into gear because of the government shutdown.

When asked whether he had a message for federal workers either furloughed or working without pay, he replied that “many of those workers have said to me and communicated, ‘Stay out until you get the funding for the wall.'”

“These federal workers want the wall,” he added. “The only one that doesn’t want the wall are the Democrats.”down. On Christmas Day he said,

The VA is funded, but not because of any special effort by trump. (Of course)

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And then I see this:

Do-nothing GOP congress.

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Notice that the rest of the year the moving parties in this mess are all Republicans but the press is trying to blame both Trump and Democrats. Odd.

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And in the middle of this mess trump freezes federal worker’s pay.
“No increase fer you!!! Now get back to work and let me check this month’s golf resort and hotel receipts” … trump would whine like nobody’s business if he lost income but he could care less about folks trying to make ends meet.

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Karma!

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What the people want or don’t want is irrelevant. Their overlords, donors or Russians dictate what these a**holes vote for.

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