Good.
The last thing I want is to have a shouty, self-righteous old man for a president. I’d like to see a few things get done in the next go around - I’m pretty tired of all my tax dollars going to partisan warfare. Especially as the other side gets more and more extreme. Someone in Washington has to have two feet on the ground and Hillary does.
All Iowa SD’s are committed to Hilary. The overall SD commitment count is 347 to 13.
So while she won and Sander’s supporters are still calling it a tie, she actually won on both counts.
After the 2008 election,I haven’t watched any election returns on tv. I get all my returns on TPM and local returns on the website of my local newspaper.
It´s actually 49.9 Clinton to 49.6 Sanders, for what it´s worth.
Just checked many of my gambling sites (quasi degenerate gambler here), Clinton is still a comfortable favorite in Vegas. Trump is 2nd by a margin. And then, Bernie Sanders. So, Vegas still thinks it’s Clinton, for what it’s worth.
If that gives you guys any comfort.
I couldn’t stomach MSNBC. I read all the returns on Twitter and via live feed on CBC Canada.
Many thanks, appreciate it. Interesting to see how this evolves.
I guess they can change their choice before the convention.
It brings to mind a scene in the West Wing (as things in the real world so often do, surprisingly) from early in Season 2 in a flashback to the Bartlett Campaign, where the staff is discussing next steps after Iowa and New Hampshire. The real life situation is paralleling the fictional rather well so far, where a older, New England politician challenges the party favorite and winds up overtaking him (her in this case).
I have heard the Republican Mitchell go off on Hillary before. Sometimes Mrs. G sounds partisan, but maybe there is some personal history of which we are unaware.
Hillary doesn’t get much love on any MSNBC show these days.
For a lot of people not working the rope line is emblematic of a candidate who really doesn’t give a shit about the people on the other side of the rope.
No. The party passes an envelope for a voluntary contribution. It does not raise a lot of money.
Actually, voters attend the caucus, and elect delegates from within their preference group.
Respectfully disagree.
MSNBC (particularly Chris Hayes and Maddow) have been fairly evenhanded in the Dem race. I see Hillary and Bernie frequently on each show. The rest of MSNBC, I tend not to watch. Especially Chris Matthews, who cannot stomach any longer.
I think it shows what the back and forth polls were showing that they were pretty evenly matched. I personally think either would do a good job as president, but lean toward Hillary. And I think she will do better at pulling in women and blacks to vote in the election.
Mrs. Greenspan is a shrew.
There is no question Hillary would be a better president on a technical level, but a president also has to be inspirational. Haven’t seen much inspiration out of Hillary.
Perhaps Andrea is jealous of Hillary. I mean, just compare husbands - Alan Greenspan and Bill Clinton. If you were a woman, who would you rather have as a spouse?
Exactly! This is not a game of horseshoes. A win is a win. In a state tailor-made for Bernie, his revolution came up short. Turnout was good, but not nearly as good as President Obama in 2008. But even with the good turnout, which should favor Bernie, Hillary won. Important to remember this is a delegate race and Clinton is already up by about 350-375 delegates so Bernie really needed Iowa to put a dent in that. He didn’t.
As a long-time Iowa caucus chair (2004, 2008 and 2012) - but not in Iowa for this round - I say this was a great outcome for the party. When Bernie announced, I thought and said that I wouldn’t be surprised if he won.
Well done, Democrats.
O’Malley finished third. I consider him the true winner! Wait, what’s that? He’s dropping out, you say? Oh well, I guess it only works if you’re Republican.