Discussion: Wisconsin GOPers Want To Block Local Governments From Issuing Voter IDs

Here’s a photo of Vanggaad, he’s a real basket case! The 2nd photo is a photo of his little lap-dog, Joe Sanfelippo

http://rootriversiren.blogspot.com/2014/06/is-van-wanggaard-about-to-get-cantorized.html

Two phucking white racist’s acting like they are really somebody!

Bullshit.

The voter ID laws passed by Republican legislators require forms of ID never required before, and also tend to have provisions cutting early voting, eliminating same-day registration, and other tactics designed solely to exclude certain groups—who tend to vote Democratic—from the polling booth.
Any law that makes it harder to vote is designed to suppress the vote.

Even you aren’t stupid enough to believe the bullshit you’re posting.

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Not relevant to the WI case. WI has much stricter ID requirements. In fact, contrary to your statement, South Dakota does not require a photo ID:

If you do not have a photo ID, you can sign a personal identification
affidavit, and will still be allowed to vote a regular ballot.

I’m in California, where the state has encouraged people to become permanent vote-by-mail voters. No ID needed. No trip to the polling place on election day needed. Voter fraud: infinitesimal, just like it is everywhere else.

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Nick, should you be trying to lecture us about voter ID, when you don’t even know the requirements in your own state?

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Vandals who hope to be petty tyrants. Pathetic.

You don’t get it, Mr. “I already have a Driver’s License, Birth Certificate, Social Security Card, Etc.”

All of those things flow together. If you’re still in your birth town, you’re in luck! You can get your Birth Certificate pretty easy.

Oh, your parents moved to another State when you were a baby, and you don’t have a copy? Well, that’s an interstate trip, potentially, to your birth town and the registrar’s office.

Just for a start.

Yes, ID’s are easy for the folks WHO ALREADY HAVE THEM.

(Note: also won’t mention the multiple fees at each location for getting the successive ID… You’re probably not minimum-wage, so it won’t cost you 1/2 days’ net wages just for a copy of your Birth Certificate…)

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It was also true in CT (may still be true) that you can sign an affidavit, if you don’t have an ID. However, when I moved here and went to vote at my local polling place (we had a tight senatorial race that year), the poll-watcher wouldn’t let me sign an affidavit to vote (they had in the previous election) or accept my out-of-state driver’s license. I was able to vote after I returned from home with my passport and a stack of bills with my name and address on it. I’m sure the fact that my polling place is in a predominantly democratic and African American urban precinct had nothing to do with the illegal scrutiny at all.

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I truly cannot understand why millions of people vote republican.

Translation: “We gotta keep the Darkies from voting SOMEHOW!”

Any time I have read of people designated as poll watchers, the term has referred to persons who are representing outside interests and have no official capacity at the polling place. From your story, though, I will assume that you are using the term to refer an official poll worker.

At any rate, CT puts a higher burden on first-time voters and it sounds to me like the poll workers handled you correctly according to CT law:
http://www.ct.gov/sots/LIB/sots/ElectionServices/HAVA/HavaPDF/IDRequirements.pdf

Had you told the poll workers that you were unable to provide the required identification, you would have qualified for a provisional ballot:
http://www.ct.gov/sots/LIB/sots/ElectionServices/HAVA/HavaPDF/ProvisionalBallot3.pdf

Maybe the citizens of WI should file a lawsuit against their gov’t for failure to provide easy access to their constitutional right to vote.So sick of these fucking neanderthals.

you are correct poll workers.

In any event, I wasn’t a first-time voter at that precinct (although my memory is fuzzy as to whether it was the first Federal election) and I should have been allowed to cast a provisional ballot. I actually contacted a voter problem hotline about it at the time and they got pretty worked up about it. They mentioned that they would dispatch a lawyer to watch the proceedings.

The details matter. If you fell in one of the “first-time” voter categories, the ID request was per the law and a provisional ballot would be issued only if you were unable to produce the required ID.

If you weren’t a “first-time” voter, your experience sounds odd. If your name was on the list, and you hadn’t been “challenged” as described in the “provisional ballot” link I provided, you would get a ballot without needing any ID. I think you probably would have remembered if your name wasn’t on the list or it there had been some discussion about your name being challenged.

Wisconsin is a nasty place - at least it was some ~30 years ago when we moved there for college. It was also extremely racist (although we’re white, our low income gave us a front-row seat at that show). A year later, we got one of those “Escape Wisconsin” bumper stickers and ripped the rear view mirror off the U-haul on our way out. Good riddance!

I definitely wasn’t a ‘first-time’ voter at the precinct at the time and I’m about 95% certain that it was my second Federal election at that precinct. It was odd. I wonder what it means to be “unable” to produce the ID

On a related note, they request photo-ID for every voter there to this day. I haven’t pressed to see what happens if I refuse, but my reading of the information you provided suggests that I shouldn’t need an ID.

I found this explanation:
A Voter, who has shown acceptable identification
when registering, or in a previous election, is not required to show
identification again. However, if he does not do so, he must step out of
line so that he can fill out and sign a Form ED-681 entitled
“Signatures of Electors Who Did No Present ID (Form 3) swearing or
affirming that the elector whose name appears on the official check list
is the elector signing the form

Drivers license will not be a valid voting ID in WI. I live here.

Yeah? In WI? Like where, Chicago, WI, or Indianapolis, WI?

From the DMV:

FREE Wisconsin ID cards for voting
An unexpired Wisconsin driver license is acceptable photo ID for voting. If you are a U.S. citizen, will be at least 18 years of age by the next election, and would like a Wisconsin ID card to vote, please check the ID for FREE box when completing the Wisconsin Identification Card (ID) application MV3004 or when applying for a duplicate/renewal online.

A free ID card is NOT available under the following circumstances:

If you currently have a valid, unexpired driver license (DL), you are not eligible under Wisconsin law to obtain an ID.
If you will not be at least 18 years of age on the date of the next election.
If you are not eligible to vote in Wisconsin.

It seems very clear that the driver’s license is an acceptable ID.

http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/dmv/license-drvs/how-to-apply/petition-process.aspx

If you already hold a Wisconsin driver license or identification (ID) card, you have what you need to vote. A Wisconsin driver license or ID card is acceptable photo ID for voting. If you are applying for a free ID card for the first time for voting purposes and your documents to prove U.S. citizenship, name and date of birth, or legal name change are unavailable, you may use this process.

Elsewhere they describe getting the voter ID card without the birth certificate.

The amount of stupidity involved in the bitching and moaning on this issue is really kind of amazing.

WI. POLITICIANS WANTED! The Yee! Hadists in Nevada are looking for more stupid anti anything assholes. You won’t even need training!

Walker is the very real demagogue already operating in this country. Trump is just an amateur wannabe.