āMr. Mueller, um, told us a lot of what we need to hear today,ā Nadler said, without going further.
Honestly, did Mueller tell us anything that we didnāt already know? He emphasized some things, but they were already in the report. Iām confused as to why so many people are screaming for action when, from what I can tell, he hasnāt said anything new?
Because Democrats are stalling.
I donāt get it either. He re-emphasized some things for the apparently hard-of-hearing press, but nothing new.
Also, that āumā in the headline is out of context and too click-baity. Cāmon TPM, donāt go down this road that you are clearly going downā¦
āit falls to Congress to respond to the crimes, lies, and other wrongdoing of President Trump. We will do so.ā
AND THIS TIME HE MEANS IT!!awq312312312w#@as3qw2de31q2w1a11`!1!!!
āMr. Mueller, um, told us a lot of what we need to hear today,ā Nadler said, without going further.
Asked about impeaching President Trump for obstructing justice in the probe, Nadler said, āall options are on the table.ā
When can such passion for pressing Dems be directed at rethugs? Do they have no responsibility? Why are Dems treated as if they were guilty while rethugs get to hide?
For the hard-of-hearing, for those who canāt read, and for those who refuse to readā¦
This presser was interesting to me.
I think Nadler had come there with prepared remarks and ready to do a full presser, but then he appeared to cut things short abruptly, probably after having read Pelosiās statement.
I think this might be a positive step. Everyone supports Nancy and respects her as the leader, but clearly a majority of the party and 6 or 7 candidates disagree w/her current position on the path forward on the issue of opening a formal impeachment inquiry. Nancy knows thatās not sustainable for her in the long run.
If Nancy called Nadler to walk it back a bit, I think itās because she read the room and knew that today is no ordinary day in the history of the Mueller probe. Itās bigger than that. Nancy has asked a lot of her committee chairs without really letting them get unleashed. She might now be willing to talk this through with everyone and chart a path forward instead of responding to events and crises.
I like to think of it as the big brother or sister syndrome. Were you an older sibling? Remember being told that you had to be the one that acted like the adult while your little sibling teased or otherwise drove you fucking crazy and started a fight?
Nothing new, but the hope is that what Mueller actually said will break through the ābothsiderismā and conflating āimpeaching Trumpā with āopening an impeachment investigationā that the Media keeps doingā¦ GRRRRRRā¦
Do the second, then see about the first.
What I donāt know is if Mueller really does not want to testify, or that he only wants to do so when forced to do so, so that he will not look like a political actor.
Ah! So the deplorables, the Freedom Caucus, and the regular GOP?
Democrats really need to get with the program. To the public ā the obstruction issue is much less likely to resonate. The really need to be going after the underlying evidence behind the āinsufficient evidenceā of conspiracy. There is evidence there. What is it? THIS is what needs to be heard in open congressional testimony. This is what will bring the public around to the āwhyā behind the coverup.
Start an impeachment trial and bring in Mueller as the first witness to set the stage. Thatās also when the Dems will enter the Mueller report and its underlying evidence into the proceedings. With that baseline established they can then bring in witnesses to either repeat for the television cameras and the nation what they said to the grand jury, or to commit perjury, or to take the 5th.
Nope. He really didnāt, but we shouldnāt discount the possibility that literally hearing it from the horseās mouth while the cameras are rolling live can have a certain impact for public opinion. It certainly makes it harder for Trumpās crew to lie about what Mueller said in the report when heās on record publicly stating what he himself actually said in the report.
Thereās no reason to believe at this point that Muellerās presser will have any magic effect or shift things dramatically, which is what people seem to be assuming and reacting to, but it does present the possibility. I think itās premature to react right now as if itās a game changer. Letās see what the numbers tell us in the coming days.
Yep
Or sheās awash in a flood of fundraising money and doesnāt want to disturb the golden goose that is Trump-fueled anger.
He said it on camera ā that does make a difference, because ā¦ Media
But the reason why people are screaming for action is that this is a chance to get the impeachment issue back on the right track.
Dems need the focus of impeachment to be on the russia attack. And the more Dems dilly dally, the more it becomes about partisan crap and personal feuds.
So yeah, people are screaming, because this is time limited. Dems have to act fast, and keep the focus on the Russia attack.
It is directed at the GOPā¦
The Dem leadership are standing in the way of those efforts. Weāre trying to get the leadership to press in the same direction, rather than sit on the sidelines worrying about whether some centrist from a district that Trump won in 2016 will get re-elected.
Itās on the right track. And the āpeople screamingā are a small vocal minority.
Hardly. You provide no reasoning to back that up because there is none that would pass a giggle test.
Fuck that they do. Thereās no reason for that either. The obstruction evidence is fantastic as well. The focus needs to be on the fact that everything Trump does is corrupt, which is why everything he touches dies.
ETA: And I say that because where any one particular act or omission, isolated out of context, might be arguably insufficient grounds for impeachment, a paraded litany of them can form a whole that simply shows the motherfucker to be profoundly unfit for office.