Discussion: Why GOP 2016ers Are Tied In Knots Over Replacing Obamacare

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They replace it with exactly the same thing, but stop giving Obama credit for it.

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the Republican planā€¦

while we donā€™t believe in science, unless its convenient, our plan is that if you get sick youā€™re the victim of your own bad genes and you should die and remove yourself from the gene poolā€¦

if youā€™re critically injured in an accident you have to take personal responsibility for allowing yourself to be in a dangerous situationā€¦

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repubs have nothing, and everyone knows it.

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There is no excuse for media to not ask follow up questions about what their plans are.

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ā€œdue to the general dynamics of a primary raceā€ ha! Trump is going to be the nominee, he is incapable of any kind of sentient activity past keeping his hair in place with a pump bottle of hairspray. And since when do men use hairspray anyway? What is he some kind of wimp?

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There is no excuse for media - fixed it.

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Why The GOP Candidates Are Tied In Knots Over Replacing Obamacareā€¦

ā€¦because, despite enormous efforts to dismantle it, the ACA is showing its positive effects. The issue has gotten too far out in front of them.

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When you replace your refrigerator you put another one in the place of the old one. When you trade in your car ( replace e it ) you get another car. The reason is a refrigeratorā€™s purpose is to keep your food cold and if you replace it you have to continue that purpose. Same with a car. It provides personal transportation. A new one has to do that too.

A new ACA would have to do what the old one did or it would not be ā€œreplacedā€. It would have to provide healthcare access. It would have to be ACA II. Gopers canā€™t take that to their base.

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Governing is hard work. Have to leave health care to the grown-ups, i.e., the Democrats.

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Itā€™s what the conservative Jesus would do.

@Chicago11

Democrats remind us occasionally the idea started with the underrated Truman, the same man who took a giant step and desegregated the armed forces through an Executive Order.

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The republican healthcare plan:

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ā€¦anā€¦ idea that has been blocked by conservative sinā€¦

Truer words were never spoken.

Whatā€™s that you say?

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I think you have to go back further in time to find the perfect GOP health care plan:

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Itā€™s quite simple. They didnā€™t want any changes in 2009 other than tort reform and they still donā€™t. Healthcare is not a priority among elected Republicans. It just isnā€™t.

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Rand Paulā€™s comment that ā€˜we could try Freedom for a whileā€™ ignores the fact that we had freedom on this issue for a very long time. It became expensive, unwieldy, covered little, cost a lot and had lots of exclusions, leaving many out of the equation.

That was ā€˜freedomā€™. Failing to acknowledge that is a leadership failure that should disqualify him from running - although it seems the polls already have.

What no one seems to be doing is coming up with options within the framework of the existing law, which has already been, in part, adjudicated by SCOTUS. Thereā€™s where the leadership would come in. Since none of the candidates (and I really havenā€™t heard anything from the Democratic candidates either) have proposed any improvements to the existing law, I guess we have an impasse.

No one is challenging the improvement position and no one is challenging how it gets paid for. Epic fail.

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Yes, youā€™re correct. Theyā€™ll replace it with the same plan but, with a different name.

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ā€œsome of them, I think, frankly donā€™t think that coverage for lower- and moderate-income Americans is a priority.ā€

This pretty much sums up the real problem. Frankly a lot of the strongly conservative/libertarian wings of the Republican party are followers of markets and social darwinism as an answer to everything. But they know they canā€™t come out and openly SAY that poor people who canā€™t afford healthcare on an open market DESERVE to have poor health, even though thatā€™ what many of them believe. So they hide behind two things, ā€˜repeal and replaceā€™ hoping that people will just forget the ā€œreplaceā€ part after the repeal, and ā€œfreedomā€ language which Paul does. He just never defines that for him ā€œfreedomā€ means the freedom to die because of the lack of money.

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But thereā€™s just one problem with that plan. The details have been scant as to what the GOP presidential candidates ā€“ who have uniformly railed against the Affordable Care Act ā€“ intend to enact in its place.

Enact in its place? Why is such a plan needed? They're counting on controlling both houses of Congress and the Presidency. They'll do as they please. How the hell will the 1%-ers further bloat their bank accounts if the nation is preoccupied with healing the proles? There is no plan, and there will be no plan. You'll fend for yourself and you'll like it, as the Masters of the Universe will decree.
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Their base are drooling idiots. Theyā€™d vote for housing policies that resulted in them sleeping under a bridge if it meant ā€œthe othersā€ suffered a similar or worse fate. Same goes for every other example of help or policy the government extends or enacts.

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