Discussion: Why Going Hard Right Might Not Save Kansas GOP Senator Pat Roberts

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Roberts is likely toast at this point. The teahadists may not know much, but they can spot a phony as well as anyone.

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The unknown factor is the inherent cowardice of low-info voters. They’ll proudly trumpet that they want a change from their philistine leadership, then when it comes down to that one vote, they’ll go with the status quo.

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Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) seems to be playing to the hard right …

OK - see how that works

Also, at public appearances , recommend ‘Goose stepping’ across the stage -

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Kansans have elected Brownback to the Senate and Governorship - I don’t buy this argument that any Republican is “Moderate”.

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Hard right conservatives purged the Republican Party in Kansas in the 90s and 00s. Brownback stuck with social issues, and didn’t act crazy enough to scare anybody off in his senate campaigns. When Sebelius left to run HHS, she pretty much gave up the governor’s mansion to Brownback in the subsequent cycle; there was no viable Democrat to replace her.

Long story short, there are moderate Republicans, they just haven’t been empowered in their own party, and haven’t had a good chance to make common cause with Democrats and Independents until this cycle; Brownback’s dancing on the the third rails of Kansas politics has been well documented, and Roberts was permanently damaged in the primary over the residency issue.

Kansas Democrats have made a brilliant strategic move by leaving the senate field to the very popular Orman while concentrating their fire on Brownback. Moderate Republicans have made a brilliant strategic move by openly endorsing a moderate Democrat over Brownback, and leaving Roberts to swing in the wind. If both bets pay off, and especially if Kobach gets knocked off as well, the ultra conservatives control of the Republican party in Kansas will be shattered, and that could well be a model for defeating extremism in other red states.

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It’s all about turnout, and “moderates” tend to not turn out in mid-terms even when they say they will to pollsters. I’m with the other commenter thought, if Orman can pull this off (and I really hope he does), it could be an even more powerful shot across the bow than Cantor’s loss - which was chalked up to begin lazy in the home district.

At the same time, the “Orman as the 50th vote dynamic” could also tamp down a lot of the more zany Democrats as well. It could cause a really powerful “move to the middle” by those Senators who have the room to do so in both parties.

Maybe Kansas will be safe once again for Dorothy and Toto to return to.

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Roberts problem is he has been out of Kansas far too long. He or, more to the point, his Washington based handlers don’t understand that right now a whole lot of Republican moderates are pissed off at Brownback and his black booted right wing thugs. There is limited upside to going hard right in this election.

I knew Roberts was in deep trouble when the national republicans talked Roberts into fring his local campaign manager and replaced him with some good old boys from the beltway. All politics is local. Even in Kansas.

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Kansas may be a little bit like Indiana. Indiana is more a solidly Republican state than a solidly conservative state, as Hoosiers will dump on rightwing conservatives who run statewide. Yes Kansas is to the right of Indiana but I can sense a bit of similar politics there…

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I like that now liberalism isn’t just called “socialism” by the T-baggers. Now it’s called “national socialism.” I think we should trump them and just call them Nazis. God for the Win!

Bye bye, Roberts.

I suppose I’d try to stay out of Kansas as much as possible, too.

they can spot a phony???hahahahah they are phonies and angry, petulant ,child like idgits who act like brats who mommy didn’t let them have a cookie before supper then throw a tantrum when they didn’t get what they want and as far as goin far right that doesn’t seem to be going well for brownback either…shit for brains sarah palin well I could go on and on about that coup of a endorsement but I gotta go my fingers aren’t up to the amount of typing involved in describing her

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Tapping the Wasatch Witch is at least two things. One, I love that they use the term tapped because I think it is insulting to her and the other is that it shows desperation, just like McCain.
Bring in the brainless harpy to fire up the crowd and hopefully they don’t notice that she is only after money and very embarrassing…