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As for the call for discipline of the players for their display, Crocker defended the decision.
âWhatâs interesting is that itâs the same kind rhetoric thatâs used against us,â he said. âWhy canât a police union demand that, after what it deems as misconduct, why canât it demand discipline?â
Did one of the NFL players kill a policeman? I must have missed that.
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As for the call for discipline of the players for their display, Crocker defended the decision.
âWhatâs interesting is that itâs the same kind rhetoric thatâs used against us,â he said. âWhy canât a police union demand that, after what it deems as misconduct, why canât it demand discipline?â
Why shouldnât the police-who are charged with protecting our Constitutional rights-be able to demand that someone exercising those rights be punished? Gee, I donât know.
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Has any police officer been disciplined in these recent events? Has any police officer been found to have committed misconduct?
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Does this guy really believe that itâs misconduct to criticize police? How does he even justify that nonsense in his head? Youâre not above reproach. I mean no disrespect to the police that donât have their heads firmly up their ass, but these guys need to stop believing their own hype.
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âWhy canât a police union demand that, after what it deems as misconduct, why canât it demand discipline?â
Well, for starters, a) professional athletes are not agents of the government empowered to use lethal force and b) when an athlete speaks out people do not die. It is hardly equivalent when, on the one hand, an unarmed African American child lies dead and, on the other hand, some police officers get their feeling hurt. If the Police Officersâ Union cannot see the difference, that is part of the problem
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Until we have an independent transparent system to review allegations of misconduct against policemen (and women) there will be this divide. The police federation and its spokespeople should remember who pays their salaries. Among those who do are blacks. Unfortunately too many in the force think that behaving like assholes is ok. âServe and Protectâ has become a joke.
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If they dont want to be criticized, just dont kill people who are unarmed.
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They are causing more harm than good with their statements and over reactions. It seems defensive to me.
Of course it is the unionâs fiduciary responsibility to represent all their members. The posturing and politicizing of it is not part of that requirement, thatâs choice.
Iâm already seeing more calls on the right leaning sites that who are honest enough to see a problem in policing that what really needs to happen is abolish the police unions. I donât agree with this but they are losing their natural allies.
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ââŚthey have become quite a bit more defensiveâŚâ
Whipping out a gun and shooting someone is not defense.
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âWhy canât a police union demand that, after what it deems as misconduct, why canât it demand discipline?â
The NFL players used the 1st Amendment as a way to speak out. Since when is that deemed to be misconduct?
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The Police Union is acting like the Israel of civil servantsâŚAny criticism of willful violence indicates only that all cops are victims, and anyone proposing reform hates cops.
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I meant verbally. The whining about what football players are wearing, the lashing out at de Blasio, the public comments about Tamir Rice, because not doing interviews is an option as is âno commentâ.
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Only in America can police kill an unarmed citizen and not only walk, but can literally be vigorously defended in public by their unions. Makes me wonder, black cops were once black boys, who were warned by their parents how to address and deal with law enforcement, are they in agreement with the bullshitry the unions are doing?
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I can understand the reaction of the police unions. Their only function is to protect their members. Any collateral damage inflicted on the citizenry just doesnât appear on their radar - itâs not their job.
Why these groups are being given a big, consequence-free soapbox is beyond me, however. These groups are not concerned about whether their members are right or wrong, they defend their members and no one else.
Why would anyone think their motives are âpureâ?
Until I start seeing some pushback from within the LE community to these acts of homicide (as determined by medical examiners), if not outright murder, I have to think that all cops support this stuff. Funny how that never happens.
Until I start hearing some âgoodâ cops speak out for justice (and thatâs at the root of all the protests, make no mistake), I have to assume either (1) there just arenât any left, or (2) they have been cowed into silence by their âbrothersâ.
Doesnât speak well for them either wayâŚ
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The S.C. State Trooper who shot the man reaching into his vehicle for his license was fired and charged with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, which is a felony.
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âWhat youâve got to understand is that cops donât like to be criticized. We have a hard job to do. ⌠Cops are just like everybody else, especially when they think theyâre doing the right thing,â he said. âBut I would have to tell you, yes, they have become quite a bit more defensive.â
Neither do lawyers; pastors; doctors; journalists; businessmen; secretaries; bureaucrats; retail clerks; waiters;âŚ
In fact, I donât know any working group that likes to be criticized and that doesnât think they have a hard job to do.
Suck it up. You arenât that special.
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Having been an EMT, I have worked with the police. Speaking with several of my old âcopâ friends regarding the recent events, they all have said that the Police Unionsâ public criticisms against the public have made their jobs even MORE difficult.
They agree more with Richmond police Chief Chris Magnus, who stood with the protesters to be one with their community.
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Itâs funny how conservatives just love to pillory unions for protecting their members and disregarding everyone else - until itâs a police union doing it. Then itâs unquestioned.
And I donât really expect my local police to take the lead in fighting terrorism - seems to me weâve got a whole Department at the federal level to take care of that. How about you local guys just focus on keeping the peace?
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âWhat youâve got to understand is that cops donât like to be criticized.â
What youâve got to understand is that 12-year-olds with toy guns on a playground donât like to be shot dead in two seconds. What youâve got to understand is that people committing the heinous crime of selling loose cigarettes donât like to be strangled to death.
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