âBut it is very, very difficult when people make accusations where you say, you know, the Democrats have done nothing, the establishment of the Democrats have done nothing,â Goldberg said. âAnd I just want to throw this out to you. (Rep.) John Lewis (D-GA) wasnât sitting still. [Sen.] Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) wasnât sitting still.â
âSo,â she continued. âYou just got in there and I know you got lots of good ideas, but I would encourage you to sit still for a minute and learn the job. ⌠You donât have to be born into it. You donât have to know it when you step out, but before you start pooping on people and what theyâve done, you got to do something too.â
What AOC said was a lot of what has been tried hasnât worked. That is very true. The Dem big tent has turned away most of American who actually beleive in progressive policies. Which is why a unabashedly progressive voice and platform is what is needed, not this slow down Nellie crap from Whoopie.
But learning to be an effective legislator and accomplishing legislative goals is soooo yesterday for the purists⌠Itâs so much more important for the purists that AOC recite the agenda rather than actually accomplishing anything.
That being said, I have every faith that AOC knows the difference. I only hope the purists donât turn on her the first time she makes a the slightest compromise to, you know, actually get something passed.
i agree with Whoopie but, i imagine sheâs going to get shit on for saying anything against AOC
What has purity-progressive yelling from the backbenches accomplished?
Come on Whoopie, give her a break.
1). Iâm fairly certain the Democratic establishment supported her opponent in her Primary election, which is fine. The Establishment can have their opinion, but AOC can have hers.
2). I think we should have discussions on ideas, not based on whoâs been here for awhile vs. whoâs new. And if youâre new, you need to keep quiet for some Rey.
3). Ultimately, itâll be up to her constituents to decide if they like her approach or not. So far, itâs been a breath of fresh air as far as Iâm concerned. For example, I never knew before AOC pointed it out that legislators were being pressured and indoctrinated by corporate shills.
4). So called âradicalâ or out of the mainstream ideas need someone or some group to push the envelope before it becomes acceptable to the majority. I thank AOC for taking on that challenge, and frankly, we should back her and hope sheâs successful.
Yeah, follow Trumpâs example.
I agree with what both of them say.
However, the truth is that Whoopi Goldberg is responding to a caricature of what AOC said.
This is just like her comments about supporting Nancy Pelosi, which people completely misunderstood. When she was asked about supporting Pelosi, AOC clearly stated that she would support the left most candidate, and at that time the leftmost candidate was Pelosi. Which was her way of saying she was supporting Pelosi. Somehow, many in the media spun that into a heads up battle between the two.
Similarly, what AOC is saying is absolutely correct. Much of what the Dem establishment has been doing, hasnât worked, the most obvious example being 2016. Whoopi Goldberg is also correct that AOC needs to learn a lot, but hereâs the thing, thatâs what AOC has been doing. She has been publicly documenting the stuff she has been learning throughout this process (including how the schedule is setup to make it extremely difficult for someone who isnât independently wealthy to become a member of congress, due to the gap between the elections and the beginning of the job and the salary, and the fact that during freshman orientation sessions, there is no representation from unions and activist agencies, but a ton of representation from lobbyists).
I really wish the left wouldnât buy into the deliberate misreading of what people are saying. AOC will indeed make a ton of mistakes, but this is only a mistake if you go out of your way to twist what she is saying into something that is orthogonal to what she is saying.
âSit Still,â âLearn The Jobâ Before âPooping On Peopleâ
No! No! No! I am fine with AOC pooping on people, as long as is the right people being pooped on. If you go take a quick look at wingnuttia, seems like half the articles are about meanie AOC. Their are practically begging for her too poop on them some more to have something to add to their grievances and to explain retroactively why they voted for Trump.
I think the picture says 1000 words. Thank you.
The purists did when she supported Pelosi (like she always said she would!). I donât think the purists are gonna worry her.
Youâre welcome
Ha! 
PS: Keep going. This is really good stuff.
According to Mediaite, Goldberg made the remarks while referencing comments Ocasio-Cortez made during an interview with â60 Minutesâ that aired over the weekend. Host Anderson Cooper asked the freshman congresswoman about her past support for Democratic challengers of Democratic incumbents. Ocasio-Cortez said the move was ârisky,â but said âso much of what weâve tried in the past hasnât worked,â which many took as an attack on long-serving members.
On âThe Viewâ Monday, Goldberg acknowledged that Ocasio-Cortez is an âopinionated woman, which we like.â
âBut it is very, very difficult when people make accusations where you say, you know, the Democrats have done nothing, the establishment of the Democrats have done nothing,â Goldberg said. âAnd I just want to throw this out to you. (Rep.) John Lewis (D-GA) wasnât sitting still. [Sen.] Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) wasnât sitting still.â
AOCâs statements on this topic going back to the Fall have struck me as being in the vein of âDs and Rs are the sameâ which has been a sore point for me for sometime for the sheer absurdity (in addition to being R&R talking points).
It takes a great deal of ignorance of our political history (some going back to before she was born) to not understand How We Got Here and why âestablishmentâ Dems couldnât stop it.
Whoopi has a valid point.
This and I would add the team up Pelosi and AOC did with the enviromental protestors where each talked up the others agenda/accomplishments, but parts of the media missrepresented as a squable based on spin they got from Republican staffers.
Any progressive who is disappointed by what theyâve been able to achieve in the Democratic Party is sensible.
Any progressive who feels turned away by the Democratic Party, presumably with the effect of becoming politically disinterested/uninvolved or going Stein-y, is a fool.
Thanks for the career advice, Guinan. Iâm sure sheâll file it away.
Hey lady who has never been elected to any office in her life, SHUT THE FU*K UP!