Wait, is that smooth headed gent on the right with the navy t-shirt and bad beard the crying Nazi from the Vice video?!?!
they all look alike to meâŚ
"Insisting he was just âmaking an observation,â Wiginton invoked a dark precedent: the formation of the Irish Republican Army. âHistorically if you look at the IRA, the Irish Republican Army, this is exactly how they were formed,â he said. âThey were forced underground because of their views. Thatâs what America is playing with.â
Being Irish, this guys needs a history lesson (or three). The new IRA were boosted significantly after Bloody Sunday, when innocent people were gunned down by the British Army (opposite of Charlottesville). Then the Real IRA went underground after the peace process started and they disgraced themselves by bombing innocent people in Omagh. Whatâs left of them are just thugs and drug runners. Some of the IRA leaders became politicians or retired when they realized that peaceful negotiations work better than violence. Ireland is still not united and itâs a fragile peace - but the IRA lost. Just making an observationâŚ
So howâs that going to work in the US exactly, fellas?!
As T Bone Burnett wrote: âHe had to pay her 50 dollars. And it was 20 for anybody else.â
Comparing yourself to the IRA is pretty fucking stupid on more than one level.
On one level itâs stupid because in that scenario, arguably, the UK are the Nazis. On another level itâs stupid because arguably the militant wing of the NRA were terrorists.
White Supremacy is not the same thing as the desire to see invaders and occupiers thrown out out of a country. But if White Supremacists want to admit they are terrorists - Iâm all for it.
These guys donât get that freedom of speech doesnât equal freedom from consequence.
âIf they kick you off because they donât like the cut of your jibâŚâ
Guy sure has a deep understanding of the situation.
White Nationalists Are Feeling The Squeeze After Charlottesville Backlash
That âsqueezeâ is a warm embrace from Chiselinâ Trump.
We need the address of everyone of these creeps. Why? To stay away from them. Right?
âŚand an impromptu keynote speaker.
"Iâm not advocating that at all, but in a society where you have people that have issues or are angry or something, our First Amendment makes it so they can express those views, come to a forum and discuss and find a solution to those problems.â
OK. But, I think that this has all been done already, and we already found a solution to the problem. The solution is to encourage private conference centers to prohibit hate groups from convening at their facilities.
Linâs original plan for the Vietnam War Memorial did not glorify the fighting. Even with the added bronze statue of infantrymen on patrol, it doesnât glorify the generals.
The World War II Memorial doesnât really do anything to glorify the admirals and generals, either.
Unless a bottle of lotion counts a âdateâ
Well, in the world of chain smoking slut slammers, Iâm sure it does.
Hate speech isnât per se unprotected. Incitement to riot, solicitation to commit a particular crime, and so forth are the things that may be punished. No speech can be punished without explication of the context revealing a crime. Now just try to apply that, case by case. Sometimes you gotta hold your nose, and sometimes you gotta excise the stink.
It is almost never possible to ban it in advance. Anyway, the start at Charlottesville was the night before the publicly planned event. That fact alone makes a mockery of the Orange Arschlochâs claim that any of the Friday protestors were fine people. Speech is the bait. Terroristic riots are the switch. We need to be able to shut down the switch without removing the bait.
The group that pissed me off the most was the âshe had to earn my vote and she didnâtâ faction. IMHO, it is the responsibility of the citizenry to research the candidates, understand their policy positions, and choose the one that most aligns with oneâs own goals. Hillary had detailed plans for many, many aspirational goals but she wasnât able to spoon feed them to every single snowflake.
Did she run a perfect campaign? No. Was she a perfect candidate? No, but damn close in my view.
And now weâre on this shit highway with no off ramp in sight.
I donât disagree, per se, but I think you donât credit the length of time this simmered.
The reach of right wing media has continuously expanded, and over time the message has become more explicit and harder right. But there has been a white supremacist core for a very long time.
I recall a friend telling me that during a substitute teaching gig, one of his 12 year old students showed his KKK card.
In 1992.
In Massachusetts.
Those underground mtgs arenât going to be nearly as much fun without their Nazi pump up music
They can always bring their 8-tracks.
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It must really hurt when they try to throw a Civil War and no one shows up.
All those flags and costumes they wasted their money on when they could have paid a dentist.