Discussion: Where The National Anthem Fits Into Military's Paid Displays With NFL

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If you understand their fits over Kaepernick and this issue to be anything other than pure, unadulterated crystallized white nationalist propaganda, then you clearly spend no time in their spaces learning our enemy.

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If thereā€™s money to be made, an enterprising ā€˜patriotā€™ will find it.

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Couldnā€™t pay me. But then, I have you, luckily.

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It all makes perfect marketing sense. The number one export of the US is war. Unless global conflicts are started and then nurtured, defense contractors will lose money and stock prices at the big defense firms will fall. We canā€™t have that. This is also why there is no longer a draft. A draft would include the sons/daughters of the elite in our society. We canā€™t have that either. War is the job of poor minorities; cannon fodder is a noble career, I guess. The NFLā€™s fan base is the perfect market for war and violence. Using tax dollars to convince young people to die for corporate interests is exactly what this is all about. There are no existential threats to the US, and that is what really terrifies the war machine. Without a very scary, very imminent danger ā€œout thereā€, thereā€™s no urgency to pour $700 Billion a year into the coffers of the war/death industry. Eisenhower clearly warned of exactly what we have today: The Military Industrial Complex. Itā€™s immoral, obscene and apparently, unstoppable.

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If Flake is upset by this waste of DoD money, wait until he finds out much $$$ was shoveled to seedy directors in Hollywood.

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This makes it sound like the past tense. They still have this relationship/sponsorship so much as I know.

Flake followed up with a report co-authored with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) that excoriated both the NFL and the military for allowing members of the armed services to be used as a ā€œmarketing ploy.ā€

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United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1 ā€” The Flag
Ā§8. Respect for flag
c. The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

Why are they disrespecting the flag by carrying it flat onto the field ?

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The Kneeling is NOT about the Army. The Army, for all itā€™s faults, was invaluable in the expansion of Civil Rights in our nation. The military was one of the first employers to insist on integration and merit (colorblind) advancement. They did not always succeed but they made a public try before other parts of society did.

What we are talking about is the inequality of Law Enforcement treatment of our citizens, which MUST STOP. If racial justice is not your bag then do it based on PROFESSIONALISM. If you donā€™t care about that then think of how it poisons jury pools. The OJ verdict terrified our legal system. They were used to occasional Jury Nullification for Police Officers but when a common (swarthy) citizen gets it ā€¦ that threatens the entire system.

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And it will always be.

The day itā€™s mandated by the State is the day our Founding Fathers will have finally been defeated.

Long live the King.

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And that can be confirmed with how returning vets are treated, especially of they donā€™t come home whole.

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And how does one fold a flag that as per flag regulations?

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What about flying them from your F150 until they are in tattlers? Thatā€™s in the rules. Right?

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Technically, folding is not carrying in the display sense. Itā€™s putting away.

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I get that, but somewhere recently I read it had to be folded thirteen times. So a flag that size sits where when not ā€œcarriedā€? And can you imagine the fire needed to burn it when it gets old?

That would be a conflagration worth watchingā€¦

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It is a very sad and telling thing that patriotism has to be bought and paid for with money. I went to MLB games in the 60ā€™s a lot and it was tradition ā€¦ the anthem was played and then you heard ā€œLetā€™s Play Ball!!ā€ There was no color guard, no giant flag, no marching band. Just baseball. Baseball and mustard on hotdogs. And the occasional foul ball souvenir (I still have two baseballs from those days). Now itā€™s money and politics.
Sad

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Iā€™ve always been fascinated by the fact that burning the flag is a desecration, except when itā€™s not.

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Itā€™s probably goes way back to when one used burnt offerings to appease the gods. Also fire is a ritual cleansing.

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If the NFL is as patriotic as they claim to be, why were they not only not subsidizing these military displays, but actually needing to be bribed to allow them? Taking their own explanations at face value, it really doesnā€™t make sense to me from either end.

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