Discussion: What We Now Know About Trump Jr's Infamous Air Force 1 Statement

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if I may quote Digby: "Reporters don’t seem to realize that when the Russians offered dirt on Clinton and then showed up talking about sanctions that they were setting up the quid pro quo. They weren’t going to hand it over for nothing. "

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True enough. They all, every last one of them, appear to be at least partial, if not quite completely, lies. Totally consistent.

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According to Trump Jr.’s testimony, he never spoke to his father about the meeting he held with then-campaign manager Paul Manafort, his brother-in-law Jared Kushner, and a handful of Russian businesspeople including Kremlin-linked attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya. Trump Jr. said that he neither offered his father advance warning that he’d been invited to learn about Russian government “dirt” on Clinton, or informed him after the fact that the conversation had instead mostly focused on reinstating a program allowing Americans to adopt Russian children.

I call bullshit. This isn’t even a good lie or a smart one. Easily disprovable which Mueller will do. Countdown for a perjury indictment for DT Jr.?

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From the article “Numerous” people were involved in the statement, including counsel, and the President “may have commented through [then-communications staffer] Hope Hicks,” Trump Jr. continued.

Ah yes, Ms. Hicks, I haven’t heard about her in a while. Just wondering how the FBI-cooperation thing went.

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“It did not talk about what got them into the door, and I didn’t expand on it because I didn’t think it was relevant to discuss what the meeting was not actually about,” Trump Jr. said of the initial Air Force 1 statement. “As more questions were asked and more information was requested, we released more information and went into greater detail.”


Why is an orange?
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Ms. Kirkland could have more succinctly filed the following story:

:wink:

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OT, but
“Mueller has reportedly honed in on”
should be “homed in.” Like a pigeon or a homing device. Not sharpening.
My apologies for the moment of pedantry.

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It’s a good thing Trump was elected. If Hillary had won the country would be subjected to an endless parade of controversies, investigations, legal proceedings and the resulting inertia that would have crippled efficient governance of our affairs.

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unlike The Donald who is adept at whoring in…

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Fredo is in deep doodoo…

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Well, which is it?

Is Junior too much of a doofus to craft his own statements, or is he competent enough to run Trump enterprises while Daddy is in the White House?
(Or – is he even really running Trump Org at all?)

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I thought Eric was Fredo?

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Asked to account for the evolving statements, Trump Jr. told Senate investigators that “they’re all very consistent with each other.”

You know, when they’d been strongly denying (intentional use of the word strongly) any contacts, meetings or communications with any Russians at all during the campaign and transition … well, the evolution of these statements (because of the discovery and publication of more and more info) seem quite transparent and revealing and as consistent with each others as changing lies can be when you get caught red-handed.

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Mueller:

“In the matter of United States v Donald J. Trump Jr, the prosecution calls Vanessa Trump to be sworn in.”

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I thought Eric was Butthead.

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Eat up boys and girls. If the lies don’t kill ya, the stink will!

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And the thing that is new since the Trumps showed up on the national scene is their willingness to tell those lies not just in relatively safe settings but in ones where lying is against the law. They simply assert that a thing is so, when there’s ample if not copious evidence that it isn’t. They’ve seen a number of people in their little cabal go down like ducks in a shooting gallery, and yet they don’t have the fear of God yet. They just step over every legal line, smirking.

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So true. Hillary is well known for unwanted dickie fondling and prancing around with well-endowed porn stars. :grimacing:

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The entire clan (or Klan) is like a gaggle of malevolent Vinnie Barbarinos.

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