Discussion: What Exactly Are Dems Getting With Kansas Independent Greg Orman?

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Orman sounds exactly like what you’d expect for someone from Kansas. His positions are reasonable, and are not reactive to party pressures. I’m sure his views differ from mine in several ways, but that would be true with any politician anywhere in the country. What i respect about this guy is that he thinks before he speaks. Words do have consequences, and certain words can either create battles, or create solutions. Orman seems intent on creating solutions. That’s what this country needs, now more than ever. I strongly believe that’s the same position that most Kansans would take.

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I don’t expect to agree with everything someone says, as long as their principles are sound.

I agree with Orman on matters of substance. Where I disagree, there isn’t really anything Orman is planning to do that bothers me.

He’s free to think passing ObamaCare was a bad idea (if that isn’t just easy political fence-straddling), as long as he thinks it is too late to repeal it.

We all know it can be improved. Love to have someone on board who wants to make it better.

Repugnicants hate him with very good political reasons. He’s poison to them.

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Well one thing for sure is Not Pat Roberts. The jury is still out on everything else.

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I think the right label for this guy is “smart realist” - his positions take into account right/wrong and practical/impractical. I think he’d be just as likely to shun a stupid idea no matter where it comes from. I’d love to see a block of independents like him force the moderates in each party together. A counter to groups like the Tea Party that push R’s to the extreme.

How great would it be if for a bill to pass, the party in control had to shun their more extreme members and lobby the moderates on the other side? I really hope this guy makes it.

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Orman’s ads are powerful, my wife thinks they are among the best she has seen in years, and he seems to have enough money to hang with Roberts.

Roberts ads are extraordinarily partisan and reflect the Washington tea party establishment approach exactly. That is probably because the national party has installed a DC air warrior to run the Roberts’ campaign. Orman’s ads pivot on the Roberts ads so the comparison is stark. The Koch brothers ads are typically Koch brothers–a lot of money spent overtly pushing the far right agenda. It isn’t 2010 anymore.

On balance Roberts has a rough row to hoe and not much time left to do it.

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Thank you!!!

Many Kansas Democrats are not this progressive, so I don’t think there is any reason for the party to be hesitant. That said, I fear the abortion issue could sink him against Roberts. That is what saved Dole’s career in '74 and it could be what preserves Roberts today. There have been pro-choice candidates elected in the state – Kathleen Sebelius and former GOP Gov Mike Hayden - but both were well known to Kansans before they ran.

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Based on what I read in the article Orman sounds a lot like my former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords who was/is … a blue dog Democrat. The middle of the road approach made her very popular. I personally like the non-partisan approach. It sounds like Orman understands that compromise is a necessary part of politics. He’s too smart to be a republican.

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You know what dems are getting??

One LESS gop lifer in the senate that’s what, we are all getting with an Orman win!

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“Whether they’ll admit it or not, Democrats have put all their eggs in Greg Orman’s basket.”

Full stop right there. That’s horseshit. We intended to hold our Senate Majority before the Kansas Scramble even happened by putting our eggs in the LA/AR/NC/AK/CO/IA/MI/GA/KY basket.

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It is up to Kansas now, but reelecting candidate Roberts would be a pity. Time for Kansan’s to be brave and not capitulate to fear. Old and entrenched or fresh and interested?

Know what their getting ? – That becomes less relevant once you factor in knowing what you’ve had –