Discussion: What Else Was Buried In That WI. Bill That Almost Gutted Government Transparency

I’ve said, and I meant, that the people of Wisconsin who RE-ELECTED this jerk deserve what they get.
But if the people of Wisconsin sit still (as in sit on their butts) while stuff like this is enacted into law, the people cease to become victims of bad choices and a worse “government.” They cease to become victims and they become enablers.
How long are you going to sit around and let this guy get away with this “stuff?” Wisconsin?
Is this the same state that was the home of La Follette?

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They view it as a trophy in their idealogical battle. Between uber-liberal Madison and a Milwaukee run by actual socialists for a big chunk of the 20th Century, the general trend has been a progressive state. From public employee unions, worker’s comp to Kindergarten, public university systems and the “Wisconsin Idea” good ideas began here. Even though the population keeps it in the middle of the pack among the states, we always ranked in the top ten by any quality-of-life measure. Until Walker showed up this state always punched above it’s weight. In five short years this crowd kicked out all the underpinnings. They’ve laid the groundwork to turn us into Mississippi on meth.
Sadly, we’re not only a trophy but a laboratory for their mad scientists. The view seems to be if they can turn Wisconsin red, they can replicate the success anywhere. Unfortunately for them, their demographic is dying off and here, even the diminishing base is perplexed by many of Walker’s and the state legislators efforts since last November. There’s a lot of butt-hurt that Walker has turned all his attentions to glamorous Iowa. He’s betting everything there while becoming a very vulnerable close 2nd to Jeb nationwide for every other GOP contender. I can’t wait for the debates, he should be so bruised by the Wisconsin primary, if he makes it that far, that he may well lose his home state.
God help the USA if this flounder-faced flip-flopper achieves the Presidency.

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Motion 666

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American voters ignore this guy at their risk. He has clearly and repeatedly demonstrated that his MO is to tell them one thing and then do the other…from greater restrictions on abortion to right to work laws to open records.

He is truly THE most dangerous candidate now seeking the GOP nomination and primed to push through the Koch brothers playbook.

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What a thoroughly mean, rotten human being.

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“…flounder-faced flip-flopper…” I’m totally stealing this, with maybe just a tiny embellishment: flounder-faced, flip-flopping fascist. With all due respect to flounders, although they are bottom feeders.

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Or Florida - Same rotting stink down here with Felon in Charge Rick Scott and his Supermajority Tea Party legislature trying to dismantle the Florida Retirement system that is also financially sound along with development controls …environmental controls…water controls.. you name it . Everything for big bidness and the 1%, nothing for anyone else

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They won’t be happy until it is a full tilt Feudal system .
“Hey you lot outside the walls …have some table scraps”

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Walker, has risen to Presidential candidate by gutting his own state and doing his masters work. Blinded by what he feels is success, he doesn’t see that he has ruined his own viability at the same time.
He might be dangerous if he were ever elected President but he won’t ever, and I mean never, even come close.

Wrecking a state makes Walker teabagger popular but general voting public despised.

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All of this is pretty awful…and a lot of people are upset. But please remember how Walker got into office…he was elected! So if you in Wisconsin are complaining, I have to ask…“Did you vote in the last election?” If not, it’s your fault he’s in office!

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Looks like Walker and the regressive right is following the “Fascism Made Easy In 14 Steps,” playbook!
Here are two of the 14 steps or points!

  1. Power of corporations protected
    Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.

  2. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
    Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.

http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html

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After Walker’s obvious war on the rights of unionized workers to negotiate, and other changes in the law meant to cripple them, Scott Walker STILL WON UNION HOUSEHOLDS in his reelection!

If unions, workers, and their pensions suffer in Wisconsin, it is as much the union workers doing, as Walker’s. Scott Walker ALSO won the women’s vote in his reelection campaign. All of these are economic and family issues, and it appears the voters of Wisconsin are against ALL of them. It’s really hard to care about a state’s population determined to make themselves poorer, and more economically vulnerable. At some point, it’s best to move on to people who will actually advocate for a BETTER life for themselves, no?

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The citizens of Wisconsin, already knowing what kind of character Walker is, have had TWO elections to get rid of him and WITH the support of Women AND UNION HOUSEHOLDS, he won reelection! Wisconsin is determined to make themselves a shithole of a state, obviously they can’t be helped.

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Sadly, until the media truly pick up on this story, it has no legs.

I live in Wisconsin (having relocated there due to marriage in October, from Connecticut). My husband has lived in the State for 20 years, having relocated there from St. Paul, MN.

I’ve been telling him about this story now since Friday last and his only question to me has been, has it been on the evening news?

He’s not a stupid person - not even a full out conservative. But if the media won’t cover the story, then (to him) it’s nothing but a limited hatchet job and has no merit.

I would be willing to bet that many will feel the same way. The only thing we’ll hear on the media will be some buried story of the 15th GOP candidate for the Presidency next week with no questions as to his suitability to run, based on his record as Governor or anything else. Seriously, this isn’t just a Wisconsin issue - this is a national issue, because no one is publicly documenting the asking and answering of the right questions.

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Walker remains as the champion of sleeze and in the pocket of the Koch Bros and ALEC. He cannot be trusted to do right for America.

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So, yesterday when I said people were declaring victory over cancer because they killed a single cell? This is what I meant. This is how the Koch Brothers plan to turn America into a dystopia where a handful of obscenely wealthy neofeudal barons, immune from the rule of law and freed of any limits on their actions other than those imposed by continual economic(?) warfare with the other barons is implemented. Not with a coup or a revolution, but one step at a time. One Supreme Court opinion enhancing their power here. One resentment fueled political campaign at a time and then, quietly, drip, drip, drip, drop by drop. One little quiet bill or regulatory change at a time, either passed in the dark of night, slipped through amid the giddy distraction of the waning opposition’s celebration its victory over a diversionary sacrifice. Or, worst of all, enacted in broad daylight to the thunderous applause of those already ensurfed whipped up into a frenzy of resentment against those who still have something left by the very best propaganda campaigns unlimited money can buy.

And so it ends, neofeudal lords strangling all competition in the cradle, wringing every new drop of wealth out of the ever more impoverished majority, professionals become the last vestige of the middle class, cops become enforcers of order on the unruly peons, professors become servile propagandists subject to impoverishment on a whim.

I don’t know if we can stop it. I began to despair about ten seconds after Citizens United was announced. But I do know we can’t stop it by focusing on blocking individual pieces of legislation or regulation passed by state legislatures and executive branches we’ve lost because no one thought it was worth the time and trouble to vote.

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What MilwaukeeKent said. Also, there’s money involved (surprise!). The Kochs own many of WI mid-state paper mills and northern mines, and are lusting after public forest land and utilities. One aim is to secure a monopoly on utilities, much the same way Enron did in California in the 1990s.

Scott Walker has traded Koch campaign money for public assets, which he has promised the Kochs for pennies on the dollar.

Of course, there’s the ideological side of it too - squash the workers, eliminate corporate taxes, dumb down education. It’s incredibly sad what massive damage Walker has inflicted on my home state, just to enrich his corrupt ass. It will take decades to recover.

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One should cut living wages because hard work should be rewarded and you should be able to lift yourself by your boot straps. Who cares if you can n nlonger afford boots.

The idea that republicans respect labor is put to the lie by their treatment of those who work for a living.

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this is a potential goldmine for Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton.

I guess it’s up to them, since the folks at the DNC don’t seem to think Walker’s a candidate: https://www.democrats.org/the-2016-republican-field

I should point out that the communications geniuses working for Debbie Waste of Space Schultz are experts at burying the lede—this is the twitter mention of what Walker is doing on the DNC home page:

“So this is happening: bit.ly/1JRWFt0 https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/status/618572674902683648/photo/1

I wonder how many visitors to that page simply ignore that cryptic, opaque, meaningless slangy reference.

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but they are letting workers ( those not too lazy, that is) take home another few, emphasis on few, bucks by working weekends.
and any legislation titled Motion 999 sounds like a Mel Brooks invention.

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