Discussion: WATCH: Scarborough Admits GOP Approach To Iran Deal Is A 'Toxic Mix'

TPM Article Topics
1

Discussion for article #234330

2

“‘Toxic Mix’”

Is that what you fed her, Joe…is it?

4 Likes
3

Ok Joe, you can try to blame the letter on a freshman Senator but what is your excuse for the 46 other Senators, including the Majority Leader who signed the letter?

The 47 traitors have identified themselves. Each is responsible for their own signature on the letter. It is not just the work of a stupid freshman.

26 Likes
4

Every approach the GOP takes to anything while they’re in Congress will be a toxic mix. It’s all they have. They’re so deeply entrenched in their own bubble of toxic fumes in addition to fact that there’s no longer any leadership on their side, this will be happening every single time.

9 Likes
5

Joe, it’s not the dysfunction of the United States of America that’s the issue.

It’s the dysfunction of the Republican Party that is to blame for the gridlock and circus atmosphere in DC.

The Bush administration seriously damaged our standing in the world. The Republican Party is continuing that.

14 Likes
6

It started long before Bush…my marker would be Reagan but it was earlier than that too…

2 Likes
7

the toxic mix is what is formulated in the republicon brain and comes out their mouthes…a sewer can’t compare to the noxious shit commin out their pie holes

1 Like
8

I do think it has a really toxic mix about how dysfunctional the United States of America is right now.

Blames America.

2 Likes
9

Joe must have been out of the bubble this past weekend and was shocked to see things weren’t playing as well as he assumed it was. He automatically assumes that Mika and other liberals just hate things out of reflex.

3 Likes
10

Joe Scarborough is a toxic mix of fuckery and irrelevance.

5 Likes
11

Freshmen do stupid stuff? This letter was signed by 47 Republican Senators. All but three. That means almost the entire GOP contingent of congressmen and senators just can’t help but show how stupid they are on a regular basis.

Conservatives think they are on a mission from their god to destroy the United States and its government. They want to end it all for every human being on the planet including those who live in Israel and Iran. A zombie apocalypse is their goal. They will not be happy till they all go to *ell. Joe is making apologies for such stupidity saying it’s a cheeky, freshman prank?

4 Likes
12

Blame anybody put the nitwit *uck ups in his own party.

2 Likes
13

Taft started the modern GOP Era of graft and corruption after Teddy Roosevelt ended the Gilded Age of the Top 1% from the 1870s to 1900. It’s back in full throttle again thanks to Reagan, the Koch Brothers and John Robert’s Supreme Court. Hilary needs to pick up Teddy’s Big Stick and run on another progressive reform movement using Lincoln, Eisenhower and FDR has her model.

The American middle class has seen enough of this GOP-controlled Congress after only a few months of their whippersnapping idiocy.

Voters are thoroughly disgusted with the outlandish wealth being flaunted by the public equity guys and Wall Street, lack of revenue streams due to tax shelters and subsidies for the Top 1% and the underemployment that has lead to income inequality for workers. Conservatives have demonstrated that they truly don’t know what they are doing regarding national security, our outsourced workplace or the common good of all our citizens.

If Republicans can’t govern effectively with their lower level of intelligence, they need to get out of the way of higher functioning humans.

3 Likes
14

Two quotes from the article stand out. The first one is that the letter was “stupid.” Gee, ya think, Joe?

The second is where he says to “show you’re not on the side of Israel.” First of all, any American should be on the side ot the United States of America, not Israel. Secondly, what about our other allies, Great Britain, France, and Germany, who are not on “the side of Israel.” Don’t their opinions count just as much as Israel’s? Why weren’t their foreign ministers and/or leaders invited to address Congress? Doesn’t Congress want to hear both sides? It’s not just President Obama who thinks the negotiations should go forward; it’s also Great Britain, France, and Germany. Oh, and BTW, Russia, is in the 5+1 group that is involved in these negotiations, who want these negotiations to go forward. I thought Joe and the republicans think President Obama should be more like Putin, whom they admire so much. So, if Putin thinks these negotiations should go forward, isn’t President Obama being more like Putin?

Israel is not our only ally and Israel should not speak for the United States. I’m sick of hearing what Netanyahu thinks; it’s time we heard what our other allies think, also.

4 Likes
15

Although there were stirrings of this before, the Ruling Class decided to push back in the 1970s. Some of what were looked at as the “excesses of the left” (many used the 1968 Democratic Convention as an example) provided a good cover for the Elite taking charge.

There is an excellent treatment of this in the following passage:

“In the early 1970s, there was a growing sense of vulnerability and declining power in capitalist circles. The economic system was changing in ways that seemed threatening and unpredictable. Wages had been rising; profits had been stagnating; productivity had been declining. The international economy, dominated by the United States since World War II, had become much more competitive. The U.S. economy was twice shaken in the 1970s by abrupt leaps in the price of oil. Increasing governmental regulation in areas from environmental practices to consumer protection and workplace safety seemed to be raising the cost of doing business. Many business leaders felt politically isolated. John Harper, then chairman of ALCOA, recalled the period from the happier perspective of the 1980s, ‘We [corporate leaders] were not effective. We were not involved. What we were doing wasn’t working. All the polls showed that business was in disfavor. We didn’t think that people understood how the economic system works. We were getting the short shrift from Congress. I thought we were powerless in spite of the stories of how we could manipulate everything’. Since the early 1970s, business leaders have taken a more direct and aggressive role in national politics. Corporations, as we have seen, seized the opportunity presented by the PAC provisions of the post-Watergate reforms. Business lobbyists perfected the upscale grassroots campaign–mobilizing local business leaders, stockholders, depositors, suppliers, or dealer networks to influence Congress. In 1972, ALCOA’s Harper joined other corporate leaders to found the Business Roundtable. About the same time, the Heritage Foundation was started, with the help of a $250.000 donation from Colorado brewer Joseph Coors, and the American Enterprise Institute began its transformation from an inconsequential research center into a key player in public policy.”

–taken from Dennis Gilbert, THE AMERICAN CLASS STRUCTURE: in an Age of Growing Inequality, Belmont,CA:
Wadsworth, 2003, pages 203-204.

Ronald Reagan, the crooked-grinning “boy next door”, SOLD the above to the American People. To this day, I still occasionally watch “Death Valley Days” and marvel at how likeable Ronnie was.

16

Let’s take the honesty to the next level too. There’s no way a Freshman Senator came up and implemented this idea by himself. He was instructed to do so by his more senior colleagues, without any doubt. To put it another way, he was stupid enough to be the one to take that sort of idiotic risk.

17

Joe should shut up. Yes a “freshman” wrote the letter but it was signed by some very senior Senators. Enough of the whitewash.

Levy sanctions
Use the pain the sanctions cause to leverage diplomacy
If diplomacy fails you are free and can with a clear conscience levy additional harsh sanctions.

That’s what we are doing now. What would the GOP do differently? War is what they want folks to think.

But you don’t write a letter like that to ANY government. It makes a statement about America that goes much further than Iran. Why would anyone deal with the USA if our commitment to the deal is temporary…as Cotton has said. Why should any country trust us after that?

18

–Newsflash–

Morning Joke learns to add one awful partisan thing with another awful partisan thing, and comes up with two whole partisan things…that are related to one another.

He’s a Genius, I tell ya.

And it only took him two weeks to deduce that using that thing we call, math.

Amazing.

1 Like
19

Exactly, Leeks. One other thing. JoeScar blames the entire U.S. – not congressional Republicans but the abstraction called “the United States of America.” ("… how dysfunctional the United States of America is right now …")

Coincidentally, JoeScar is a Republican.

Quick to assign blame, Republicans have become masters of avoiding it – because they have to do so or they will be swept into the dustbin of history sooner rather than later.

When History’s chapter “Who Destroyed the Republican Party?” is written JoeScar won’t be at the top of the list. But he’ll be on.

20

Mika isnt a liberal at all.