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What is the point of having good quality health care if almost a quarter of your people can’t access it w/o insurance? And tort reform isn’t going to pay for my colonoscopy. I predict Gove. Perry the Platypus will be the first to leave the race. Goodness, if the guy can’t answer a straight question from Republican-friendly Fox Propaganda Channel, how’s he going to fare against real journalists?
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“But that’s not how we keep score. I think it’s a fallacy to say access to health care is all about insurance. What we happen to say in the state of Texas is we’re going to try to make as accessible as we can good quality health care,” Perry answered.
No, access to healthcare isn’t all about insurance – but it is most certainly an integral part of the equation. This isn’t an all or nothing little game. There are several moving components – and all you seem to be worried about is that some aggrieved person can’t sue a provider or marketer, etc., for something that went terribly wrong. There’s definitely a need for strong but fair legal remedies, but you seem to want to remove any and all such avenues – avenues that historically have played an important part of keeping the numerous players playing fairer and more honest in our capitalist model. Good god, man, you are very ill-informed or just hard-hearted.
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Please don’t grill Perry – The aroma would spoil the picnic –
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Remember Chris, it’s not about PEOPLE having access to health care, it’s all about KEEPING SCORE!
(and remember, you “keep score” by counting your campaign donations.)
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“Access to health care isn’t all about insurance.” So Texas has set up a network of clinics and hospitals that provide first-rate care to the uninsured, then? Oh, they haven’t? Why not, then?
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Well, it’s a pretty lame answer, but let’s give him credit, unlike a certain “presumptive front-runner” candidate we could name, for at least having anticipated he’d get the question. Can’t expect any of the GOP guys to be actual presidential timber, so you have to grade on a curve, right?
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What’s happened to Chris Wallace? He’s grilled Bush, Rubio and now Perry in a way that Chuck Todd doesn’t (or won’t).
I still think, though, that Wallace could have pressed further: if Perry’s “score” for health care is based on “access to health care”, how does he count the 21% too poor to afford insurance? As one of the posters above noted, Perry could also have been asked if Texas was going to open free clinics for Texans who could not afford a doctor?
Still, it’s refreshing to see these bozos get the deer in the headlights look when being speared on their precious Fox.
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“Keeping score??” WTF???
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What you don’t understand is that Rick (the dick) is saying health care is AVAILABLE to all, just like Disney World, or a $300 bottle of wine are “available” to all. The fact that they can’t pay for it, and therefore can’t actually, you know…GET health care, GO TO Disney, or DRINK an expensive bottle of wine…well, that’s on THEM!
Now it all makes perfect sense, no?
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right, access to health care merely means that there is a paved road leading up to the ER.
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whoops, time for some smarter glasses, Rick.
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One way to keep score is by noting the local, county-taxpayer-supported hospitals that are being bankrupted by uninsured Texans needing health care.
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“That’s not how we keep score. I think it’s a fallacy to say access to health care is all about insurance. What we happen to say in the state of Texas is we’re going to try to make as accessible as we can good quality health care.”
So, is Texas about to roll out a single-payer system?
SOCIALISTS!!!
The distinction he is trying to make is pretty stupid. So about 21% of your people do not have insurance and he is saying that does not matter so long as they have access to care. But many of them do not and many of them would go bankrupt if they do get their. Having great doctors and hospitals is a vital part but if people cannot afford to go there is there a point to having them?
Given how healthcare in the US works having the insurance is vital to the process. Forcing people to get insurance is desirable on some level, even though they would be getting a choice in what they wanted to get. I do not get why they are not doing what other conservative states have and pass a medicade expansion by some other name to save their pride. I know many are saying increasing medicade does not improve health and so on, but it is hard to believe that it is not an improvement of some sort.
I think it’s a fallacy to say access to health care is all about insurance.
Next time some wanker of despair says there’s no difference between the parties, send them to this quote.
Though granted, those are usually the same wankers who see no difference between being uninsured and being insured by an evil private carrier because single payer.
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And what they can and usually do access is the emergency care system. Where the hospitals are forced to accept people that can’t pay. Then the hospitals pass that cost onto the people that do have insurance. Perry and people that promote letting people do without insurance if they don’t want or can’t afford it have such a flawed argument.
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I’ve finally figured out where Perry got the idea for his eyeglasses!
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Mr. Perry and all of his loved ones are fully insured. If Mr. Perry or any person dear to him needed healthcare bet and believe every single Texan would have proper health insurance. Period
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Tort Reform is a total red herring. Even if malpractice awards were eliminated altogether, it would only affect something like one half of one percent of health care costs. And it doesn’t help the “little guy” without insurance one iota. Typical Republican misdirection. Shameful.
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