Discussion: Warren Bashes Trump <span style="line-height: 1em;">Economic Speech: He'll Just Help 'Rich Guys'

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Sometimes I doubt that the average person gets all worked up over tax and economic policies that benefit those already rich. Many people go day to day thinking their pot of gold is just over the hill. Sure, theyā€™re poor, or paycheck to paycheck struggling. Yet the only way to cope is to tell themselves itā€™s temporary. Theyā€™re going to win the lottery, get an inheritance, find a bag of money by the side of the road, maybe marry rich or some incredible job offer will drop out of the sky. Whatever the mechanism theyā€™re really rich, it just hasnā€™t quite happened. Yet. So, when it does (and it most surely will) they want the same policies and laws that benefit the rich to be there for them.

ā€œDonā€™t fuck with the club Iā€™ll be joiningā€¦erā€¦sometime soon!!ā€

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Give him hell, Elizabeth!

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A lot of fairly normal seeming people buy off on trickle down economics. Itā€™s probably a Fox Noose artifact.

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The childcare position only helps rich peoples babies and the rest is a combo of lyin ryanā€™s ā€˜dynamic scoringā€™ adding Trillions to the debt and ronnieā€™s trickle down that has Not worked in 30 yearsā€¦

More claptrap for the inattentive of the tea gop variety show from the pond scum con -clown!

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I do think thereā€™s some truth in that, as well as in the notion that a lot of permanently struggling blue-collar people possess an almost feudal sense of fealty to those who have ā€œwonā€ā€“and who has ā€œwonā€ bigger than The Donald? He certainly never stops reminding them of that, and they do not seem to punish him for it. They seemingly do not want to face the truth that heā€™s a fraud, and that he has scammed many of them of their life savings via Trump U and the way he systematically stiffs honest blue collar contractors. Itā€™s almost as if they respect him for playing the game better than they do, even though he has reduced it to a zero sum game where they are the losers every time he wins.

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Yes, letā€™s ā€œmake America great againā€ by recycling old, tired, dysfunctional economic theories.

(cf: Kansas)

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Trickle down economics? Wow, thatā€™s some incredibly new thinking, Donnieā€¦

How do you think weā€™ve arrived at the current disparity between the uber-rich and actual human beings?

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Note that Senator Warren and the Democrats finally seem to be getting framing right - she goes after the change from a child care credit to a deduction being about billionaires and their nannies, even though the beneficiaries go down into the upper middle class. The old Dems would have hemmed and hawed, afraid that the Republicans would respond - these guys know they canā€™t without tipping that the change would really hurt a lot of middle class as well as poor families.

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It is the myth of the ā€œAmerican Dreamā€. Basically, weā€™ve been sold this bill of sale which says that we can all have upward social mobility. Never mind the fact that we have next to no social mobility at all, and that, if you want the American Dream, move to France, Germany or Canada. They have far more upward mobility than we do.

Part of why Trump isnā€™t in the gutter at this point is the fact that the rich really hate to see one of their own brought low, especially old money, but even heā€™s hit the point where he no longer has credit with the banks, and despite the projection of opulence in his life, almost all of the things he has are owned by the company, not him. He is pretty much flat busted broke, and people think heā€™s running for office in order to stuff his own coffers. Sort of like a real life Presidential version of The Producers.

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Now, now. Trump is going after the Violet Crawley vote. The Dowager Countess of Grantham would have loved to write off the costs of the third assistant nanny, but Lloyd George would have none of it.

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Two options:

  1. Imbalance the budget and go deeper into debt, which will eventually have to be paid back by the middle class
  2. Reduce spending, which means longer waiting lines for government services to the middle class
Regardless of the choice Republicans make, Trump and the oligarchs will not be inconvenienced.
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Wiping away $100 billion a year for the next decade from the DoD budget would be a big help towards the nationā€™s finances.

Ha, ha! Iā€™ll be at Crackerā€™s Comedy, Tuesdays in September :joy:

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You go girl!!!

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Warren is just tempting El Tweeto the Orange Cheeto to RSVP.
He is caught in a trap of his own making now and canā€™t be himself. No more name calling and insults, IOW, his whole game has been shot down and heā€™s all about the teleprompter now and low energy.

Funny how things work out, isnā€™t it. : )

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I was actually surprised that he proposed repealing the estate tax. Coming from him, thatā€™s particularly galling. As long as voters are constantly reminded that the estate tax has no effect on 99.999% of them whatsoever, I think theyā€™re capable of seeing through that one.

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Take the bait lilā€™ Donny! Begin that twitterstorm. Sen. Warrenā€™s waiting:

http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/CurryT/2016/CurryT20160531_low.jpg

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I really want Warren to replace Schumer as Senate Leader for the Democratic Party. Can you imagine how sheā€™d steer policy of she were in charge there?

Too bad Schumer appears to have full control of the chamber. Sucks.

According to reports, one of the authors of the Trump economic plan was CNBC idiot Larry Kudlow. Larry is so bad that CNBC only brings him on air as much as they have to under his current contract and that isnā€™t much. When they do, you can be sure to hear the same thing over and over. Cut corporate taxes, cut corporate taxes, cut corporate taxes, along with the claim that doing so will result in economic glory days.

Larry is ALWAYS wrong. Any economic plan with his name attached to it is ALWAYS wrong. Larry, why not spend a few weeks in Kansas studying how well your ideas of trickle down have worked for your buddy Sam Brownback. The people of Kansas just handed Sam his head on a platter after defeating a wide swath of his wingnut allies in the legislature to demonstrate their displeasure with the stateā€™s economic stagnation in the face of ideological obstinacy.

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With rules and regulations, we still get lead in our drinking water and cars with known defects that kill people. And banks that cheat the small investor. The list is endless.

Oh yeah, no rules sounds like another great idea from corporate Republicans.

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