Discussion for article #242311
Interesting. The cons should have a field day cooking up conspiracies with thisâŚ
âOBLAMMO MAKINâ THE BLAH PEOPLE FILL OUT A BLANK BALLOT WHILE THEYâS SIGNINâ UP FOR THAT THAR 'BOMINATION OF OHAMMYCARE MAH GAWD TEAPARTY SAVE US SHERIFF JOE!â
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One can only hopeâŚ
Obama: âGood point. Make it so.â
GOP/Teatrolls: âOH SHIT!â
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That is more or less what I see happening here. The main snag to me would be that these are federal exchangesâŚregistering to vote is a state function. So I donât see how you can sue the federal government demanding that they take over a state function like that. With regards to state run exchanges, sure. But there is no national voting registration.
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Is it even possible for a federal sign-up site to register for state voting? Do they do that for Social Security, or defense contracting RFPâs, or writing emails to your Congress-critter?
ANother WAY for LIBtards TO REcrUIT aNCHor babIES, MExICANs, POOR PEople and OTHER NON-citizens to VOTE deMONRat. Proving ONCE Again that LIBtards CAN ONLY wIN by CHEating and GAMING the SYSTem!1!!1!1!one1!!!
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OnE!1!1!!!11!!
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Isnât there an enrollment period for signing up? Once that window passes, shouldnât registrations drop off?
Iâm summarily confused.
Actually, for those familiar with voting rights litigation,
- thereâs a quite arguable administrative law requirement that the letter described in this post be sent to the US DoJ, and
- itâs likely that the DoJ Civil Rights section, maybe encouraged is too strong, but at least was assiduous in informing the potential complainants about the private action option & just assiduously did nothing to discourage resort to it.
One of the threshold issues in such private lawsuits is âstandingâ. Suing the US AG allows that office to respond formally by engaging in the litigation, including conceding or at least not contesting standing. This forces any states that wish to defend to do so on the risk of it being on their own dime, as well as showing the federal court judge who draws the case that the feds have effectively moved over to sit with the plaintiffs.
(Indeed, for some red states with budget problems, the cost will very likely be seen as prohibitive, particularly where the roster of federal district court judges features a majority of Obama or Clinton-and-Obama appointees. For example, Iâd fully expect Alabama, Mississippi & possibly even Arkansas to concede.).
For any of you whoâve closely followed any recount proceedings, such as Coleman/Franken US Senate one in Minnesota in 2008-9, youâll likely recognize some the attorneys involved in these actions that are pending.
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Yeah. That occurred to me as well. Are there other federal-type sites like this which register voters?
Although as a practical matter the federal exchange is federal in name only, as it merely administers state-specific insurance exchanges. You donât purchase a federal health insurance plan; you purchase one specific to the state in which youâre domiciled.
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ACORN! and BLACK PANTHERS!!!4!!!7!!!
JADE. FUCKING. HELM. Motherfuckers.
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Good for them. I still donât understand how States can get away with not following the Motor-Voter Law all these years either. If this federal law passed in 1993 youâd think someone would have taken them to court and had compliance measures in place by now. WTF is going on with not following the law? And the Obama administration not setting up voter registration like they should? Thatâs just plain dumb, poor execution and eventually hurts everyone.
No excuses. Get it done.
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Indeed. Mine was an oversimplification. What I really see happening here is the GOP/Teatrolls refusing to fund anything even remotely resembling easy-access voting registration via the exchanges, claiming itâs a fatal flaw in the exchanges that requires them to be shut down, creating a select committee to investigate it, holding hearings and then trying to impeach Lynch or someone else from DOJ for refusing to prosecute, etc.
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The problem, see, is if you make it easier for people to register to vote, then some of those people will do so.
Canât have that, so itâs better to look the other way. At least thatâs why the Republicans likely havenât done anything about it.
Isnât there an enrollment period for signing up? Once that window passes, shouldnât registrations drop off?
The enrollment period is only for individual private insurance. This is about Medicaid, which you can sign up for any time.
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And it wouldnât be HEW where the function would be housed: logically, itâd be within the IRS.
You start to see why the Obama administration has not, and quite possibly cannot, be whoâs seen leading this initiative.
In addition to the Republican House members whoâve said theyâre pursuing impeachment for the IRS Director, thereâs still a whole bunch of important budget confrontations left to go on between the White House and the white folksâ House before they shut the joint down early to go off electioneering, particularly in the two Decembers Obamaâs got left.
Iâll readily admit Iâve havenât thought about this for a while or (yet) in the sort of depth that the subject justifies, but itâs actually not as constitutionally cut and dried as one might imagine. The relevant sections of the CRA and the NVA are still intact and available to be cobbled together such that itâd be open for the courts to order an affected state defendant AND IN THE CASE OF INCAPACITY (say, flowing from the state being restricted to balanced budgeting) the federal administration âon account ofââ the state - being language that can be argued as dovetailing with the fed health care insurance exchange applying where a state refuses or neglects not to set up its own state exchange.
Now, Iâm not saying that the line of reasoning one might be able to cobble together from those and other federal laws would attract a majority opinion in the SCOTUS (or THIS SCOTUS, at least), but
a) itâs more than possible the litigation envisioned here wouldnât get that far before next November (After all, the SCOTUSâ agenda for 15-16 is already fixed, and I really canât see the SCOTUS granting cert to sit on an emergency basis on what could turn out to be half a dozen or more trial level opinions.), and
b) it actually might, given what a sucker Kennedy J is for the pretty face of a personal liberty claim.
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I believe Medicaid enrollment occurs year-round.
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But surely not at the same pace?
When we did a change of address to another state through the USPS, we were given the opportunity to register to vote in our new state (California). We were sent to the CA voter registration site, which mailed us the forms.
Now, thatâs California. Iâm not so sure all states would be that responsive, but the federal entity (USPS) did do its part.
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I donât know, but under the ACAâs Medicaid expansion, enrollment into Medicaid is year-round.
For that matter, enrollment into a private insurance plan via the exchange can also happen outside the restricted enrollment period, if the applicant has experienced a âlife changeâ such as a loss of job and accompanying benefits, divorce, etc.
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