Discussion for article #232354
Again…we have an angry cop. Again a cop spewing profanities and neck veins bulging. Again a cop that shoots a man over failure to submit to his authority…not because the man presented any danger to anyone.
And just how fucking stupid are you if you threaten to shoot a man on video and then do it under these circumstances?
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I am not understand the police much anymore. This is yet another example of our police shouting and going crazy, yelling out commands to the occupants of the car faster than they can comply. It didn’t look to me like they ran that stop sign either, but I suppose we have to let that go.
What exactly caused the officer to get so overly excited in this situation. It looked and sound to me like the guys in the car were trying to comply as best they could.
Given the frequency of these shootings, is it no wonder black men being pulled over are fearful? The are getting shot while trying to comply with the officers.
I am not getting the police side of these issues much anymore.
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Uggggh…Why oh why did he get out of the car? I mean, sure, we’ve got two angry, idiot pigthugs here who clearly overreacted and seem almost to be weaving what could rightly be called almost a stereotypically scripted lead up to shooting someone and trying to make a “record” that they were justified…but why oh why did he get out of the car???
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Exactly, this is just a disaster all around. It’s not the usual “white cops shooting an unarmed black man;” one of the cops (and the one who apparently fired more rounds) was black, and he was also the one who dramatically escalated the situation. On the other hand the victim was a known (at least to the black cop) criminal who was slow to raise his hands, and then took it upon himself to open the door and get out of the car when both cops were allegedly shouting “don’t move! don’t move!” (at least from the article; couldn’t quite tell from the video). Just a disaster.
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Rawstory provides a longer video, and a better background story. One cop is saying don’t move and the other one is saying get out of the car. I have no idea why TPM is showing the shortened version which police are promoting instead of the whole video with police shouting different commands Link:
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It finally dawned on me, the greatest threat police-cops face is youtube (aka any video recording device).
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That was my take. This wasn’t an execution as much as a cluster f**k. Nobody had to die, but I have a hard time being too outraged at the cops. I am not sure criminal charges are appropriate, but internal discipline is in order. .
And again, shooting to death, not merely to wound.
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One cop is saying “get out of the car” and the other one is saying “don’t move.”
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I’ve wondered from the start if the Tamir Rice incident featured a similar mix of commands: “drop your weapon” and “put your hands in the air”.
What, no Mrcomments leaping in to justify the shooting? Shocking.
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He said in a statement the footage “raises serious questions as to the
legality and/or reasonableness of the officers’ actions that night”
because Reid was shot as he raised his hands.
See? This is why everyone hates the Lamestream media. He wasn’t raising his hands; he was calling in an air strike. The cops had no choice but to shoot.
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The black officer starts struggling with Reid and shouting “no you’re not, no you’re not” just before he gets out of the car.
Why was the glove compartment open? It seems like it would be closed if Reid was trying to hide his gun. Why didn’t officer notice the open glove compartment right away?
This is not exactly your banner case for police brutality. A convicted felon who had been arrested recently for drug dealing in a fancy car in a bad neighborhood and with a gun in the car doesn’t obey the officer not to move and is shot … while this incident is unfortunate, I’d say this guy was already walking a fine line and I’m not surprised at the results. This is not racism, but a scared cop in a dangerous situation reacting reasonably.
I’d like to know if the officers were familiar with the occupants of the car beforehand. Was the gun legal? The car did a rolling stop for the stop sign, hardly such a serious crime to warrant such an escalation and death sentence. I’m not anti-police or anything, but many of them need to calm the hell down. With a population armed to the teeth, I can understand some caution on the behalf of the police during certain stops. I don’t know if better training is the answer or not. All I know is there are too many incidents like this.
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Perhaps when the glove box was opened to get the registration the officer asked for.
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“The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person,” Walter Hudson, chairman and founder of the civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance, said Wednesday. “He complied with the officer and the officer shot him.”
Neither statement is valid. The officers had reason to suspect that there may be other weapons, having found one, and plenty of reason to suspect trouble, given that Reid was a guy who had shot police officers in the past, and they knew it. Reid did not follow orders to not move. Under the circumstances, I can understand the heightened state of alarm by the police. I’m not saying this was handled perfectly, but I can’t see this in the same light as some of the other incidents of police inappropriately using lethal force (e.g., Garner in NYC).
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I think so because he called him by his given name.
Not with a felony conviction for shooting at state troopers.
ETA: It just occurred to me that Reid may not have even known the gun was in the glove compartment.
I agree that’s why I think we should be looking at the problem from all sides.
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This is nothing like the Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, John Crawford or Levar Jones cases.
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