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…and he hasn’t been struck down by an angry doG yet???
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Love another man - fired, fuck a little boy - ok
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Straight priest with a girlfriend would be fired for the same. Vow of chastity is one of the first ones a new priest takes.
You can make the argument that the Church would be better off with married priests of both persuasions, but I don’t understand why the Church firing a priest flagrantly defying one of the main vows would be a headline.
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To be serious about this situation, where does the Vatican go to get advice? They are an organization run by old men who are uneducated in this area. Most have spent their whole life trying to pretend they are unaffected by what the rest of us deal with everyday. They never consult church members who are civilians. This structure, despite the silly overreaction to the Pope’s visit, cannot hold. Most of the leaders are deathly afraid to be outed if they are gay and even to talk about this topic makes them nervous. This priest probably knows more than he is saying now because he has hope of staying in the Church. Look for more revelations when they foolishly try to force him out.
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What an enlightened bunch they are.
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And yet I just passed a local Catholic church with the message on their board outside: "The most powerful position you can assume is on your knees."
Go figure! (Irony is obviously not their strong suit.)
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It doesn’t surprise me that the church has removed him from his post. Although I entirely disagree with the RCC on many issues, it is their game so they can make their own rules.
The thing that puzzles me is why the priest wants to be part of the church. Does he think he can get the church to do a 180 on this issue? Why stop there; why not ask if the church can be so wrong on certain issues, what makes him think their claim to be speaking for God on all the other issues makes any sense. Why not become an Episcopalian? What, other than inertia and emotional programming, keeps him there?
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I have no clue what this priest thought was going to happen or what his goal was here. As Gorf points out, the whole celibacy/marriage thing is priest 101 and a priest who held a press conference to introduce his girlfriend would be similarly dismissed. I disagree with the Church on this and many other issues. I also didn’t take a job in the organization. If you don’t like the rules, don’t take the vows. If the church had summarily fired a priest who announced he was gay and celibate, we’d have something to talk about.
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So the Catholic Church is just as bad at the God Hates Fags - Westboro Church. Well Pope, your scam is up. Now back to the Church we all know…The Universal Church of Homophobia.
But a ‘chaste’ priest who abuses children simply gets moved on to another dioceses and care is taken so that it doesn’t make headlines.
I don’t think I’ve seen a priest with a girlfriend fired.
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Knew a girl years ago who had sex with a young priest when she was 17, and being a good catholic girl confessed it to her priest. The confessee must not have snitched because he didn’t get fired either.
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Also, if Kim Davis doesn’t want to follow secular law, then she should resign.
See, we’re not a theocratic society.
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If you saw a priest hold a press conference to introduce his girlfriend, then you would see a priest with a girlfriend fired.
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I totally agree.
If that’s a picture of him and his boyfriend they look very happy. The Vatican can do what it can do but it cannot take that happiness away. Some old grumpy higher up in the Church got his rocks off shitting on this man. But that asshole problay hasn’t had a smile on his face like that in the photo in decades.
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Yep, there are plenty of gay priests, and at least a few are out - albeit nowhere near a majority, I’m sure. It looks like this guy got fired for breaking his vow of celibacy, as well as for showing arguably poor judgement in the timing and manner of his announcement.
I’m all for letting priests marry with no gender restrictions, but until that’s church policy, any priest publicly announcing to the press that he’s broken his (admittedly stupid) vows of celibacy can pretty much expect to get fired, whatever his partner’s gender.
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In a few decades, there will be:
• Married priests
• Married gay priests
• Female priests
Either that, or the RCC will have died out for lack of staffing. It’ll be interesting to see what order they go through to permit all these; are female priests more of an abomination than married gay ones? Or transgender ones? How bad will the priest shortage get before they submit to the inevitable?
My bet – in a few decades, there will be an American Catholic Church, with all the things you list. There will also be a (small) Roman Orthodox Church, which will retain all the current rigid focus on congregants’ sex lives. Then there will be the Europeans, who continue to go to Mass on Sunday and do whatever they want the rest of the week.