Discussion for article #243639
So according to their crack legal team, the States have the right to just grab all federal lands? OK … how about military bases?
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This is dumb. It’s a waste of taxpayer money and court time. Utah will lose.
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By that logic, just the one sentence, they want to say that the federal government can control nothing inside of a state. Meaning they control nothing except maybe federal buildings? I just do not get that logic. I do sort of get them being annoyed with so much land they cannot use, I understand that, but pending the protection status of it, it may be best to see if a buy back of some of the lands would be in order.
Not sure what research they did but this sort of thing generally seems to be within federal power to do. I mean the Constitution itself says they can have land.
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They didn’t like it so much when W was prez, but now are really fight’n mad enough to spend millions because of the blah’ man.
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Nice. The idiots have taken over another state.
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Weren’t many of these land deals (states like Utah, Nevada, etc.) part of the package of the former territories becoming ‘states?’
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These clowns are like the tax protesters who engage in all sorts of misreadings of the Constitution, of statutes, and of legislative history in order to produce a clever argument about why the Federal government can’t collect income taxes. They always ignore the fact that any court that agreed with them would, in effect, be destroying the government. Not going to happen. It’s all just sophistry.
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Utah advocates have been trying to export their ideas here to Montana. Their land grab notions have been taken up by the tea party fringe in the state legislature, only to be met with resounding defeat when they tried to report a bill out. But the fringe has vowed to bring the issue up again with the next legislative session. Unlike Utah though there is no ground swell of local popular support for a federal land grab. A lot of people realize (as the RWNJs do not) that only the federal government has the resources to properly manage the extensive lands and fight the increasing number of forest fires.
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“”"“The federal government controls two-thirds of the land in Utah and the state says it’s prepared fight to get it back”""
It never had it.
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Yes.
Further proof that the way you understand Mormons is to remove the second “m.”
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A buy back would be a much better use of taxpayer monies than putting into a cronies pocket. Must question how much of the $14M has already and/or soon will flow back into the REPUG bank account.
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Assuming this case is quickly disposed of and dismissed against the United States, I hope the Federal judge has the courage to impose Rule 11 sanctions against Utah for bringing a frivolous law suit.
Indulging this right-wing lunacy only encourages it. The odds are most of these kooks know they will ultimately lose but they move forward wasting tax-payer money as a gift to encourage their crackpot supporters. a million dollar sanction could go a long way toward stopping this crap.
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In this case, the state was founded by idiots. They’re just continuing the tradition and demonstrating the ultimate result of their ancestors’ extensive inbreeding.
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Nah you can place bets now that it will end up with the SC and you can also place bets now that 4 “justices” (small “J” and lower case to match their minds and other anatomical things) will agree.
“…to get it back”
Imbeciles.
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No, they’ve always been this dumb.
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The state of Utah, where I happen to dwell and pay taxes, is paying good money for bad legal advice. This lawsuit would be a colossal waste of money (the state has already wasted a lot of money on this issue) and is doomed to failure. The State of Utah relinquished all claims, past, present, and future, to all federal lands within Utah’s borders when Utah was admitted to the union. I don’t know what theory Utah’s legal advisers are resting their case on, but it seems like a sure fire loser to me.
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I predict a major #FAILURE in their legal future.
They are not #WINNING, unless that now means to get an STD from your activities.