“But the important thing is the diplomatic work that has to go in before such a meeting. A meeting like that would be kind of an afterthought after things are negotiated."
That only applies to the mere mortals who have previously occupied the White House. The current resident has made it clear that “I’m the only one that matters, because when it comes to it, that’s what the policy is going to be. You’ve seen that, you’ve seen it strongly.”
So the president (sic) who has a depleted State Department, no ambassador to South Korea, no ambassador to North Korea, no experience in foreign policy, and no sense of diplomacy is going “to sit down and see if he can cut a deal” with Kim over the North’s nuclear program. Despite these impediments I am encouraged by the unrivaled success of his 30 day plan to defeat ISIS and his beautiful healthcare plan. Of course there is also the remote possibility that the talks with Kim will give DT the opportunity to break his own speed records for backtracking and blaming others.
As predicted, Trump is trying to define down the acceptable standard for agreeing to meet with Kim. He cannot pass up the PR opportunity in the run up to the Kim meeting and the response from Congress has been pretty weak and muted thus far. This is a major national security issue that Trump is screwing up.
This idea of a Trump-Kim meeting was likely planted by Vladimir Putin, as he trolled all of us when he offered to host the meeting. I believe Vladimir has been the hidden hand behind NK’s rapid development of its nukes and testing capability over the past year, and I also believe he is the hidden hand behind this meeting. SK is doing what they have to do to protect their people so any shiny object they can put in front of Trump to keep him from blowing the place up is fine by them.
Trump is throwing away US leverage, breaking the US Pacific alliance, and legitimizing Kim. This is Manchurian candidate level stuff. This is the type of thing that Tillerson, Kelly and others should resign over.
Apparently there is no formal written invitation from Kim yet, just the word brought by the ROK National Security Adviser. So Kim can still say: “What are you guys talking about?”.
So…what are the chances that Trump has had any conversations with anyone regarding the history of US relations with NK, and the fact that there is danger that lurks in a US president elevating NK to a level of legitimacy and credibility - and victory - that it likely does not deserve?
Does Trump know what “denuclearization” means? Because Trump appears to think it means that Korea stands down from its nuclear program, and we stand pat - and I’m willing to bet that that’s not what Kim is going for.
I am hoping that the meeting never happens because Mueller finally delivers Trump to the gates of hell and kindly opens the door for him. And throws away the key.
“This potential meeting has been agreed to, there are no additional conditions being stipulated, but, again they — they cannot engage in missile testing [don’t need it, already good], they cannot engage in nuclear testing [don’t need any more, we’re cool] and they can’t publicly object to the U.S.-South Korea planned military exercises [who cares],” deputy White House spokesman Raj Shah said.
Yes, Donald…you’re a tough boy, you’re a rough boy, you’re a winner. You are the absolute best president in the history of the country. Just don’t get millions of people killed.
Two of the tiniest minds in global politics are going to get together for a chat. Except our imbicile is senile/addled to boot, yep nothing is going to go wrong here.
It only took the Chinese President 10 minutes to get Trump to agree with China’s opinion on NK (Last spring?). Somehow I feel Trump’s gonna come home with his fingers stuck in a chinese finger trap and NKs gonna keep thier nukes… and that’s if we’re lucky and they don’t start WWIII.
Why don’t you just give away the Pentagon while you’re at it, Donald? Dealing from a position of weakness always works out well in any international chess game. Trump made a rash decision because of all the bad press last week and now he’s stuck going forward looking like a fool…and the rest of us as well.
Nobody even has to try to outsmart Trump. He does it for them.
And you know that Donald will find a way to *uck this up, too. Insist that the meeting be held at a Trump-owned property or ask Putin to arbitrate. Just imagine all the things that can go wrong when all he has to do is show up for the photo opp. That won’t be good enough. Trump has to come out “ahead” somehow, making himself open for all sorts of manipulation.
How much more does Ryan have to see before he pulls the impeachment trigger on this anarchist?
Though she has not offered, I have agreed to meet with Mrs. von Holst on the condition that she refrain from serving me tofu.
Doubt it. He didn’t know the nuclear triad was.
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How much more does Ryan have to see before he pulls the impeachment trigger on this anarchist?
Ryan, McConnell, Pence
One of the conditions I might recommend is that he get an actual invitation…
they can’t publicly object to the U.S.-South Korea planned military exercises
I see this as an easy out. They always object.
So NK gets what it wanted for over 25 years without giving up a single thing.
WTG fuckhead Trump.
Maybe it’s just me but if NK is agreeing to stop nuclear testing in order to have this sit down just what will be talked about when they have it. Nuclear testing is what it’s all about. If they are agreeing to stop it ( which you’d have to be an idiot to believe ) what else is the USA going to ask for. Nah…it’s a doppelganger stunt. And I’ll bet Kim wins.
It’s disappointing (but not very surprising) to me to see how rarely the reporting about this developing fuster-cluck mentions the fact that a face-to-face meeting with the President of the United States (and without preconditions, no less) has been a major goal of the North Koreans for decades.
Now all of a sudden, because most reporters have no clue about the history of the conflict and/or we’re all so relieved that maybe our very stable genius might not immediately unleash nuclear war on the Korean peninsula, this is supposed to be Trump showing his Art of the Deal magic at last.
This isn’t even “please don’t throw me in that thar briar patch” level of getting rolled. This is more like “please don’t throw me on that thar extra plush pillow-top mattress, and certainly don’t give me a nice manicure and bring me a flute of your best champagne”. Oh, thank you very much.
little Donald: “MMMM, Not Saying”…
Shhhhh … the preznit’s playing chess.
