Discussion: US Imposes Sanctions On 19 Russians For Alleged Election Interference

Poisoning ex-assets and their families on foreign soil may have been the final straw.

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Trump told aids that he also wanted to impose sanctions on Flynn, Manafort, and Papadopoulos if they are willing to flee the country.

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Same sanctions. The Treasury dept was tasked with creating the list. It was the excuse given numerous times as to why no sanctions had yet been imposed (they were ‘working’ on the list). Then a month or so ago they (Treasury) released a preliminary list that appeared to have no relationship with folks suspected of being involved with or funding the Election interference, and appeared to have been cut and pasted from some “Wealthiest People in Russia” type list (Think Forbes type lists), which then disappeared from the news until today’s unveiling.

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This seems to be fairly thorough

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He’ll blame it on Obama.

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The sanctions passed by Congress:

The sanctions target people and entities that:
– undermine US cybersecurity on behalf of the Russia government
– invest certain amounts in Russia’s energy export pipelines
– conduct “significant” transactions with Russian defense and intelligence agencies
– commit, or assist in, serious human rights abuses
– commit acts of “significant” corruption
– provide support to the Syrian government to acquire arms
– invest, or facilitate the investment of, $10 million or more in the Russian government’s privatization of any state owned asset in a one year period that could unfairly benefit government officials or their associates.
The bill lists 12 types of sanctions that can be imposed and requires the President to use at least five in many cases against those affected. They can include freezing assets, such as property, revoking US visas, and banning US exports to those sanctioned.

Is that what was implemented?

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And Hillary Clinton simultaneously. She was at least as big a thorn in Putin’s side as President Obama was.

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“These targeted sanctions are a part of a broader effort to address the ongoing nefarious attacks emanating from Russia.”

“Among these broader efforts, we are continuing to obstruct investigations, refusing to sanction Russia itself, and fellating Putin upon demand,” he continued.

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“Treasury Department”…not Trump or the WH.

I think what we’re seeing in the wake of Trump’s erratic NK gambit, the trade policy changes, the firing of T-Rex, the initial reaction to the Russian nerve gas attack, and the loss in PA-18, is that people within this gov’t are pushing back on Trump and limiting his power. This move validates Mueller’s indictment and utterly destroys Devin Nunes’ latest memo. It destroys Trump’s argument that it was a 300 lb guy in his basement. No one wants to be criminally liable for Trump’s actions. No one wants to cover up for him. Trump may respond by getting even dumber, appointing more Fox Infotainment types into senior positions, but I’m sensing some real push back on the national security front, at least, likely from Mattis.

It will be interesting to see how Putin reacts to this. What is his next move?

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Until the Trump Org gets something built in Moscow, which is at the bottom of the conspiracy to get PP elected because without Putin’s approval nothing happens in Moscow, we’ll be drinking warm tea, and unlike some other unlucky souls it won’t be poisoned.

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Heh. How to answer in a way that sounds sane when the actions are insane.

Yes - this is what is being implemented in terms of the law passed by congress.

No - they don’t meet the definition in the law.

This was lazy shit - almost all of those sanctioned are the same people indicted by Mueller - meaning 13 names are listed include apartchik’s who sat behind computers creating/distributing fake news/manipulating targeted audiences sentiments. Like sanctions against those employees of the operation is going to do anything. So are these lazy choices (yes - Mueller’s team did the wok), do they extract pain/lesson/ as congress intended (no and that may or maynot be the point). One of the 13 is an oligarch who is close to Putin and owned the IRA - so that might inflict some inconvenience. No idea who the other 6 are, yet.

Clearly a subversion of the intent of the law.

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How well we’ve come understand the Occupant’s MO.

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I’m starting to cringe now every time I see a SAD! or some other idiotic trump/toddler level of speech.

The headline could be shortened to “president is planning to ignore” because it’s clearly his MO to date.

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Adding a little more - due to irony - and in response to your great post detailing what the sanctions are supposed to target as opposed to what just got announced.

Look at what else was announced by the Admin: Discussion: Trump Admin Accuses Russia Of Ongoing US Energy Grid Hacking Operation

That admission reemphasizes that yes real sanctions are needed. But this is Trump’s Know Nothing/Do Nothing Party - unless it is something that enriches Family Trump, or the biggest GOP donors.

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Speaking of subverting the law, Velshi and Ruhle are discussing with another woman the impact of the appointment of conservative judges in the courts now. I wish the MSM had done more about this a long time ago, especially after the Bush years, because it’s going to have a much more profound affect on us, women, especially, in the future. I think they said that the appointees are all men, closely allied with the Federalist Society. Buh, bye right to choose, ladies. Evangelicals know this, and that’s a big reason they turn out to vote.

They also said that the reason Harriet Miers didn’t have support for the Supreme Court was because she wasn’t closely aligned with the Society.

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Well when does the twitter storm start? I figure fake news and no collusion are on the program. Maybe Fox running interference and calling this all a misunderstanding created by the Liberal media?

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I did find that interesting. I always thought of the Constitution as a living document, with the tools in place to allow for evolving as time went on. Obviously, that is a not a correct thought in some circles.

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Maybe it’s just me but despite the stark difference in context, it seems a bit confusing to use the acronym “IRA”. Granted it’s slightly inconvenient to constantly use “Internet Research Agency” but the Irish were here first. Seems especially rude to steal their intellectual property with St. Patrick’s Day on Saturday.

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and soon we’ll define and re-define our May Day celebrations. The “poles” also redefined…