Discussion for article #243707
Blaming Boehner is all well and good, but can only work in the short run. Itâll be interesting to see what happens next year when the natives get restless while Obama with the veto pen, still has the trump card. I really canât see how Ryan can deliver what his base wants.
The honeymoon is not quite over.
For the moment, âtrump cardâ doesnât quite work the way it used to.
Eddie Munster with a beard? Ick!!
Ryan has repeatedly criticized the current process,
telling lawmakers in private that the massive spending bill
amounted to a âcrap sandwich.â
Mightaâ had a tastier bill if ÂŽs didnât constantly sh^t on everything put on the table.
jw1
BOOOM !! Goes the nation. And then the Republiclans blame Obama and liberals. SOP GOP.
âThrough a combination of involving the dissidents, listening to them, respecting them and plainly flattering them, Ryan has managed to turn Boehnerâs most avowed enemies into some of his main cheerleaders, all without altering the actual legislative product of the House.â
So, all the insurrectionist drama was really nothing more than fragile egos pitching hissy fits? Who knew?
âA lot of this as much as anything is Paul and the conference dealing the best they can with a bad hand,â said Rep. Kevin Cramer, R-N.D., âwith tremendous hope for next year.â
Yet oddly enough, the Republicans dealt themselves this âbad handâ.
In the immortal words of the Shrub: âFool me once, shame onâŚshame on youâŚfool me, canât get fooled again.â
republican leadership at work. 5 day funding bill. WHEE! we passed something.
next friday. you expect us to do more of this legislating stuff?
âŚand why exactly is this a surpriseâŚ?
SHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Donât say it so loud, or one of those interns from those idiots who can read a bit will see this and realize they was tricked.
And weâll be back to shutdown
Iâm no friend of conservatives on matters of policy, but if we still enjoy mature debate in this country from people who care about governing, Iâm rooting for a hung Republican convention next summer in which Paul Ryan emerges as the consensus nominee, much as he emerged as the consensus choice when it came time to regroup after Boehner. He would be a worthy opponent for Hillary and would still lose, but at least we would have a national election where we didnât have to take a long shower afterward. And Ryan could return to his role as speaker and be a constructive opposition partner for Hillary during her eight-year term.
Conservatives do represent something like 45% of the country, so they deserve to be represented by someone who knows how to channel their views into the national debate in constructive ways.
Ryan is attempting to lead a party that is on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of science, the wrong side of reason and the wrong side of decency, compassion and basic humanity. And of course he is on the wrong side of basic economic sense.
Of course things will be different next year. Theyâre obviously aware that Paul Ryan is a Serious Policy WonkâŚand with the power of magic asterisks on his side, to boot.
Next year will be a cakewalk to the promised land of limited government, no money for Those People, and only Republicans elected from now on, just as God intended!
Why would anyone listen to Ryan? Heâs not that bright, he carries no mandate, and he has nothing to say besides the usual garbled GOP nonsense. Whatâs his constituency in DC? I canât think of one.
Well, if not Ryan, then who? We just saw that movie and there isnât anyone else so that is Ryanâs power and that is the 'conservatives/troublemakers weakness.
Ryan is lyinâ directly to them and making promises that he wonât and canât keep and the blinded by ideology clowns are infatuated. Problem is, that shit wears off and all of a sudden.
It will be, love-love-love then kablooey, hate-hate-hate and right back to all theyâve got, which is disruption, obstruction and shutdown politics.
Ryan has a few months of skating and playing Family Guy before he either dives in and does whatâs expected of him or feels the wrath of freedom.
Tronald will do the same ⌠he is channeling several dead conservative leaders right now. Not all were American of course ⌠lots of âLatinâ flavor if you know what Iâm sayinâ ⌠wink wink. But thatâs OK because he IS running for El Supremo Caudillo.
True, but heâs not completely insane, and while heâs a long, long way from a genius, heâs also not so staggeringly stupid that within thirty seconds of hearing him speak you wonder how he manages to breathe and feed himself. Neither of those can be said of very large parts of the Republican party.