Discussion: US Climate Scientists Take Research To France After Winning Anti-Trump Grant

Funding for ways to destroy the planet are plentiful, especially with new Republican taxes going to “defense”.

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Sanderson used to work at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, on risks and uncertainties under climate change. For the next few years, he will be living in Toulouse, in southern France, where the country’s national meteorological service is based.

Not a bad place to work…

Edit: I am really sorry to see this framed as an “Anti-Trump Grant”,somebody should kick AP’s derrière (pardon my french), it is a “Pro-Climate Science Grant” issued as a protest against Trumps ant-climate-science stance…

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Every day, more and more, this disastrous administration is doing far more to “Make Europe Great Again” and more to “Make America Look Like Dumbasses To The World”

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The loss of established scientists in a field of arguably existential import is likely to be the tip of the iceberg (pun fully intended) given the general hostility to science, and climate science particularly. Another step onto the slick slope of decline for the US.

When I got out of university into the R&D game in the early 60’s, Britain was suffering a “brain drain”. The small company I worked for was roughly half from the UK. That situation was largely the result of trained researchers following the money and opportunities. Today our research institutions are training large numbers of non-US born students who are returning to their own countries. The center of gravity of education/research/ development is shifting gradually away from the US, and the anti-intellectualism rampant amongst the fundamentalist ninnies seeking to take over the government will only accelerate the trend. I am not sanguine about the prospects for reversing this any time soon.

ETA: @pandastirfry has put it much more succinctly while I was hunting and pecking.

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First time posting this (this morning)

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Didn’t intellectuals leave Germany in the run up to WWII?

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Unfortunately the British comparison applies to more than science. Think of the power England once was and where it stands today. We are not far behind.

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@bardi Yep. And a shit ton of physicists and mathematicians, who contributed hugely to the war effort in England and the US - not least the Manhattan Project.

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@denisj Too right. And they seem to be continuing to wrong-foot themselves under the impulse of some of the same nativist tendencies at play here.

Because of the US loosening all sorts of protections against industries since the Reagan era, I have trusted products from Europe and Canada more than products from the US. This applies to foodstuffs and cosmetics especially. Amazingly, even Mexican agriculture has gained a foothold in my grocery basket. Recently I had an interesting experience with raspberries. At a function last week, I tried a few and quickly stopped eating them as I could taste chemicals. Friday night my daughter had some that tasted the way raspberries should. I checked to see where they were from. Yep. Mexico.

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“Make Our Planet Great Again”? MOPGA? They really missed on the branding here. How about:

Make Earth Great Again

MEGA lines right up with MAGA, and has the added benefit of being a real word (well, prefix).

Trumpublicans: If God Wanted us to pay attention to science, He would have made us smart enough to understand it. He didn’t so, obviously He doesn’t want us to pay attention to it. Ipso Facto Idioto. Checkmate, eggheads!