Discussion: University Prez Resigns After Calling Students Bunnies That Should Be Drowned

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Yet another shining example of how the “hire a CEO from the private sector to run it like a business” philosophy invariably works out.

Things that can be run like businesses are already running that way because they’re already businesses. The reason the other things aren’t run like businesses is because they deliver public goods that things run like businesses can’t. And when you hire a CEO, or worse, a hedge fund manager, to “run them like a business” you inevitably get clusterfucks like this, like Flint water poisoned with lead, like Blackwater mercs gunning down civilians and getting themselves lynched, like charter schools that teach no science and say George Washington was a theocrat, like Trump University and on and on and on . . .

I honestly don’t understand why this is so hard for so many people to grasp. But they cling to the notion with all the fervor of religious fanatics.

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“This is hard for you because you think of the students as cuddly bunnies, but you can’t. You just have to drown the bunnies 
 put a Glock to their heads.”

Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome President Donald Drumpf’s nominee for Secretary of Education.

<#makedonalddrumpfagain>

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You are so right - and this is the trend in academia. Many college presidents no longer have any background in education. They don’t even pretend to want to understand the common issues of students and faculty. It is about money and rankings. I am lucky because I have thoroughly enjoyed most of my 30 years as a professor, but I wouldn’t enter the field today. There is no longer much value placed on what we used to think of as the mission of higher education.

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“
 former financial industry executive, was in his first year as president of Mount St. Mary’s University, the nation’s second-oldest Catholic university,
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Mind boggling!!! Apparently NO ONE on the Board of Directors of a religious university thought it might not be the best "fit’ to have some raving, hedge fund scum running a Catholic university. Yeah, turns out that CEO experience wasn’t really what they needed after all.

Flipping insane :anguished:

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Hiring a CEO is a bad idea? But, Drumpf 2016!?? Vote for him he’s an outsider.

You could hit Trump supporters with dozens of these stories and they still would refuse to wake up

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The “drowned bunnies and Glocks” part of his remarks are getting most of the attention, but that’s not the important part. I’ve heard drunken college presidents say even unkinder things about students without raising my professorial eye at it.

The important part isn’t even the firings and bannings and sideswiping of tenure, although that’s guaranteed to get our dander up every time.

The important thing is that he identified the “bunnies” with a fake survey that, to any reasonable person’s eye, looked like a research instrument. It even said (verbatim) “There are no wrong answers,” which is clearly meant to set students’ minds at ease as they talked about whether they were depressed, anxious, poor, or came from poor families. Remember, NO WRONG ANSWERS! JUST ANSWER HONESTLY!

That’s so balls-to-the-wall evil that it wouldn’t even be worth mentioning in a research ethics class. I mean, we don’t tell our first-year psychology students not to steal study participants’ wallets, either. It doesn’t seem necessary to mention. But here’s this guy.

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In the end, he was the biggest Bunny of all, leaving Mt. Saint Mary’s in his first year.

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It is right that he should resign, as he clearly does not understand how things work in America.

We do not drown here. We shoot God’s creatures with guns, as He intended.

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Nice photo. I always wondered what became of Tracy Flick.

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Simon Newman, a former financial industry executive, was in his first year as president of Mount St. Mary’s University

You just have to drown the bunnies 
 put a Glock to their heads.

The #1 indicator that someone is a sociopath-> they killed or tortured animals as a child
The #2 Indicator that someone is a sociopath-> they are a financial industry executive

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As if that weren’t enough, the private sector people they hire are usually no longer in business because they were lousy at it. Take a long look at the resumĂ©s of a fair number of the Bush Administration appointees, for example.

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It’s a sad day when drowning bunnies analogies elicit public scorn.

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Un-fucking believable!

There is no student cheaper to keep than the ones you already have. Never mind the moral obligation imposed by accepting their (in many cases loaned) money in exchange for education: from a purely mercenary standpoint it’s bad business to get a student to campus and have them leave.

The school isn’t doing a good job in its admissions if they have that sort of drop-out rate. The place to address the problem is in admissions, no in drowning little bunnies or shooting them in the head with a Glock.

The job is education: if you’re not interested in the job, don’t join the academy. We don’t want to operate at a loss, but we can’t make profits the bottom line, either.

Has anyone noticed the problems with for-profit education? They don’t exist to nearly the same degree in not-for-profit education. The best prep schools in the country are not-for-profit. The greatest K- PhD education system in the history of the world (California’s from post-WW2 through Jerry Brown’s second term) was not-for-profit. The “University” of Phoenix (scare quotes because Universities are supposed to do research as well as teaching and Phoenix only does its own proprietary market research and questionable teaching) doesn’t make anyone’s list of top academic institutions. Investors, please go away (and while you’re at it, get out of health care, too!)

Bringing dirtbags like this into “leadership” degrades the school and makes it more like University of Phoenix. That’s the last thing we need.

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I fear you may be right. Him or someone very like him.

I thought Department of Education would be among the first to go


Is it too much to ask that people that are hired for Colleges are actually there to EDUCATE? I am not opposed to updating/reining in finances and making schools more efficient but honest to God. This is not BAIN CAPITAL and schools are not just another ‘business’.

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It took SIX WEEKS from the time the story broke until they got rid of this creep? Should have been more like six hours. If you know anyone who’s a student at this place, or works there, tell them to get out ASAP. It’s a disaster.

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Yea running it like a business usually means, make lots of profit for the head honchos and everyone else be damned.

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I wonder what his golden parachute is worth?

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