Go Heels!
Iâm glad theyâre understandably calling it âsafetyâ concerns. Kinda deflates the whole âfree speechâ angle.
For all the modern liberalsâ whining, it looks like antifa is winning.
Actually, that looks more like the rule of law and civil society winning than authoritarian sadists who think dressing their urge to hurt people up in ideology make it okay winning.
"Our basis for this decision is the safety and security of the campus communityâwe are not willing to risk anyoneâs safety in light of these known risks,â
Our basis for this decision is that his racist white nationalist beliefs and rhetoric are deplorable, unacceptable, require zero debate or re-hashing and we are not about to allow our venerable institution to be used as a platform for its dissemination, nor grant it a false appearance of legitimacy by doing so.
FIFY, ya fucking pussies.
Yeah, and the vagueness of the violence accusation and failure to condemn him for what he is plays right into the false equivalence narratives, not to mention the counter-narrative that the ârealâ fascists/terrorists/violence makers are the liberals. I guarantee this will pop right up on Faux News as another example of liberal fascist antifa terrorists threatening violence to persecute this man and take away his right to free speech.
Before Spencer and the Klukkkers complain, a primer:
Unfortunately, courts have ruled that actions by state universities constitute state action for the purpose of invoking the First Amendment. Albeit Iâm not sure this means he has to be offered anything larger than a broom closet.
You left out âsnowflakesâ.
Hence, the safety concerns argument. Thereâs precedent on that side, as well.
At this point, I think Spencer is fishing for a high-profile venue and trying to keep his name in the news.
âA federal judge ruled last year that Auburn University had to allow Spencer to speakâŚâ
So then al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the Taliban should be allowed to recruit on college campuses, too?
Nazis want to overthrow the US government, kill Americans for political ends, and radicalize youth.
Nazis want universities closed, intellectuals arrested, and free speech criminalized.
Nazis advocate genocide, calling for bloodshed against Jews, POC, LGBTs, and political opponents.
Nazis commit violence against citizens, while labeling themselves enemies of the United States.
Nazis meet every single definition of âterroristâ.
The only difference between them and al-Qaeda, ISIS, or the TalibanâŚ
Is their religion and the color of their skin.
And, possibly, their citizenship?
Just sayinââŚ
âWhen it comes to the hundreds of convictions related to Islamic extremism achieved in U.S. federal courts since 9/11 [the] vast majority of individuals convicted have been U.S. citizensâŚâ
I was only attempting to come at your strong argument from the 1st Amend. side of US rights which require us to, regrettably, be somewhat obligated to endure the madness of which you enumerated.
Your additional contribution of citing the specific lawbreakersâ citizenship is well taken.
a white nationalist think tank
Boy, and I thought âmilitary intelligenceâ was an oxymoron!
Albeit Iâm not sure this means he has to be offered anything larger than a broom closet.
Nor should there be any complaint if youâre charged for the needed additional security. Iâm actually sensitive to the slippery slopes argument with these bozos, but I donât see why I should be asked to fund the needed security (and itâs demonstrably needed in this case).
The First Amendment says Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech. It doesnât restrict a school from controlling who speaks at their facilities I see no reason why a university would be forced to allow Spencer to speak. The freedom to speak comes with my freedom to not listen if I so choose.
At my university there was a âspeakerâs cornerâ. Many a lively debate was held there. I am pretty sure Spencer would lose a well reasoned argument in a civil debate at a speakerâs corner.
Iâm not sure about that one myself. Although these folks obviously mean to incite and commit violence, you can get into a situation where thereâs a hecklerâs veto if enough jerks threaten to show up. Say, for example, if some folks from the turkish embassy promise to appear at any speech by someone who opposes Erdogan.
I think that a really strong security presence can discourage violence, and can also make sure that those who engage in it end up paying, especially in a closed area such as a university campus.
That is what he is after, keeping his name in the news. Just like Anne Coulter, with the ridiculous shit she spouts, which has paid her very handsomely.