But the Orange Shitgibbon just said that very few people are helped by the ACA.
Heâs misrepresenting the facts again?
âŚwhile his dunces waved Russian flags emblazoned with TRUMP while chanting âLockHerUPâ.
What I loved about Obama was that he was always in it for the long game. He knew that ACA wasnât perfect, but that as things rolled out, and people saw the sky hadnât fallen, and people were actually getting care they would not otherwise have received, that it would become increasingly popular. Plus, you just canât take a benefit away that people rely on and need. Thanks Obama!
Goddamn swing voters and purity warriors alike fucking kill me. Against stuff, or indifferent to it, until their opposition and indifference causes them to face the prospect of losing it. Obamacare, the Supreme Court, democracy.
Hahahahahaha. Nice these results come out when the idiot just made a moronic CPAC speech.
And out of the minority who disapprove of the ACA, many still donât want to get rid of the provisions that benefit them.
And trump voting big ag farmers getting worried about their seasonal workers. Recent story on MSNBC interviewing 3 of them from around the country. Each pretty much said they liked his campaign promises on pro business and lower taxes but didnât think about any of the rest of it. One said, he had always been pro immigration reform and he holds out hope that trumpâs immigration policy wonât hurt him and other big farmers. Iâm paraphrasing but thatâs pretty much what he said, "We were only thinking about profits and taxes and ignored the rest, now we too can be fuckedâŚalong with the rest of us who like to eatâŚworldwide.
In other news, bears still defecate in the woods and the Pope is still Catholic. Itâs what he doesâŚ
Dammit, will you please stop it with the very, very so unfair fake news? Poor donnie is gonna stroke out if you keep this up!
Why do they keep asking this shit question!?
If I were asked by a pollster whether I support, approve of, or feel favorable toward the ACA, I would say âyesâ.
If I were asked in private, I would say. âNo.â Because while it had some good things in it, it is a huge handout to the insurance companies, does nothing but shift costs, hurts middle class families who pay a disproportionate amount of their income on healthcare, and will never be as good as a medicare for all solution!
But how many people are like me and would say âyesâ if asked, when they really want a public option or medicare for all system? How much of that unfavorable number is from the left/liberals that would like a MORE social healthcare system?
Then again thatâs probably not any fundamental change in their mindset. I imagine in that big ag farmersâ case theyâll get compensated with even bigger and fatter subsidies (yeah, damn big government) â after all those people are the rural voters who put GOPers in power in both executive and legislative. And they will be taken care of.
And they will get back to their usual âIâve got mine fuck youâ mode once they get theirs.
GOP: Electoral College is still against it. We win. People should NOT have any health insurance; Doctors and Hospitals have burnt out.
Because people finally realize Republicanâs have nothing to replace it with and they are âin chargeâ.
I greatly admire Obama (love even) and have always been proud that he was our president. However I fault him for the way he handled the roll out of the ACA. He acted in 2009/10 as if he thought that we would all accept the ACA as a great program once the benefits started to kick in. What he needed to do was aggressively use the bully pulpit to sell the program and provide cover for the Ds up for election/reelection. Instead he was more or less quiet on the subject and let the Ds twist in the wind. Consequentially most Ds were afraid to publicly support it and the Rs took control of the narrative. For someone so skilled at communication during the campaign, I thought he did a very poor job of communicating as president. He gave the public way too much credit for rational thinking. OK, he had a lot of other things on his mind and he still is, in my book, the best president we have had in my lifetime.
These farmers expecting bigger profits might be surprised when countries respond to Trumpâs economic nationalism with retaliatory import tariffs.
Or, how do you do business with countries that have trade barriers of their own?
Count me in that group. The ACA was the best plan that we could achieve at the time. We just should not have made the mistake of thinking it would gain Republican support because it was essentially a Republican plan.
(In my best Bill Maher voice) OK, New Rule:
Republican members of Congress, and Republican governors and state legislators, you cannot criticize the ACA and call for repeal unless you work to fully implement it in your own Republican-led states:
Establish your own state marketplaces and get to work on building up robust provider networks that provide meaningful choice to your constituents â remember, you opposed the federal marketplace passed in Nancy Pelosiâs House bill, arguing that the states were closer to The People, and you got that amendment into the Senate bill that was ultimately enacted;
Make your state Insurance Commissioner push back against proposed steep premium increases, instead of letting them hike rates and then using that as proof that âObamacare doesnât workâ as promised. Or maybe youâre getting a cut of the take, in the form of campaign contributions?
Publicize the benefits of coverage, and promote upcoming open enrollment periods. Make information on applying for benefits and subsidies available at all state government buildings.
Expand Medicaid as envisioned in the ACA, without directing a portion of limited funds to private-sector middleman insurers.
If the program still comes up short after a couple of years of good-faith efforts at implementation, we can talk about your ideas about fixes
and imagine how much higher it would be if house and senate democrats hadnât run from it for six years during elections, but instead touted it as something to actually be proud of. fuck them.
Exactly!