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Maybe Reince thinks this is the Smoking Gun.
But heâs been wrong before.
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You are right Amanda, the very idea that spousal rape is wrong is just one aspect of the long push for equal rights for women. For centuries women were at best considered extensions of their husbands. Think how quickly things have changed. Women only achieved the right to vote nationally in 1920. In my grandparents day it wasnât unusual for employers to terminate women when they married. To this day the equal rights amendment hasnât been passed and the Lilly Ledbetter law was signed by President Obama. In some religions women and men still enter the worship through different doors. Twenty years ago women couldnât act as priests in most churches and still canât in the Catholic church. I knew a kindly old lawyer who couldnât understand why rape should apply to what he called âthe marital bed.â It was a manâs world and for centuries men did what they needed to do to make it so. The world has only recently changed. I am glad that you are shocked to learn that as recently as 1993 in some states a man could not be convicted for raping is wife. For me that means there has been progress, not as much as is needed, but progress none the less.
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Republicans in general would want to clarify âspousal rapeâ: Is it âlegitimate rapeâ (Todd Akin - R:Missouri) or âgift from Godâ (Richard Mourdock - R:Indiana) rape?
____Or The Donald would probably prefer to call it âSurprise Sex.â
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I bet if men had to get a notarized note from their mothers to buy condoms theyâd look at all this differently. Then again the dolts would probably just forsake contraception efforts and put it all on their partner to worry about. As many do now.
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Itâs not rape if itâs your wifeâŚ
TEaPub FamilyValuesâŚ
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Wow, no one seems to understand what the lawyerâs big mistake was here.
"told a reporter that spousal rape is legal"
No, that is not what he said. He said there was no such crime, because prior to 1993 in many states there was no crime of marital rape, it was only degrees of sexual assault. So for him to say that âcase lawâ says you canât rape your spouse would have been accurate then. The whole point is that the clueless dick Lawyer did not know current law, with âcurrentâ being since 1993. That makes him incompetent.
Oh, the audacity of minimizing the accusation by referencing âcase lawâ is totally different, that was ethically depraved. But he did not say âspousal rape is legalâ. That rape was almost always classified as a sexual assault instead, still a crime. Thatâs not good journalism.
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50 Schadenfreudes of RapeâŚ
It happened in New York, where spousal rape had been a crime for five years at the time of the incident. And the lawyer said âyou canât rape your spouseâ, not âat that time you couldnât rape your spouse.â Oh, the audacityâŚ
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In âOligarch-Worldâ if you are wealthy enough, he is right; âYou cannot rape your spouse.â
They can just Judge-shop the case around until they find a compliant judge and grease a few palms, and voila!
Case dismissed.
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Anybody remember the Rideouts?
Make that all conservative circles. This is why American women know the GOP is waging a War on Women. Most Republican males think they have a God-given right to exploit and abuse what they consider their inferiors.
From their claims of legitimate rape to incest as consensual sex, these Religious Wrong conservatives are no different than that dentist who killed an endangered lion in a wildlife preserveâŚbecause he was wealthy and thought he could get by with it.
There is a reason why Trump is at the top in the Republican polls for the GOP primaries and that the RNC is so concerned about him becoming their nominee in the general election. Women voters are not going to take the disrespect and abuse any longer.
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They ignore child support orders, too, yet speak about their family values and principles.
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Right, he did not and does not understand the Law. Heâs an asshole.
Right, he did not say it is legal to rape your spouse (as the article said). He was saying that it was not a defined crime. Clueless. Oh, itâs âsemanticsâ, but this guy is a lawyer. Semantics is vital to a lawyer.
And to clarify, the notion that he would even think of citing past law to excuse this is just sickening ethically, no doubt. Itâs like saying âI had sex with a 15 year old, but it canât be pedophiliaâ. Yes, itâs not pedophilia, but itâs still a crime. Disgraceful.
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Please proceed Republicans and Keep. Talking. About. Rape. Since you all canât seem to get on the same page, this only helps Democrats.
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While that does go on in some places, it really is not the norm.
All you have to do is judge shop for a very conservative judge. Like someone W. appointed. Theyâll have the same views as you. You donât have to bribe them.
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The hilarious thing about this story is that Trumpâs lawyer, by employing a âlegalâ argument, basically admitted on his clientâs behalf that Ivana was correct on the facts. But, who knows, that might further boost Trumpâs standing with Republican voters.
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The number of women ignoring child support is increasing, so bad
analogy and really just a chauvanistic stereotype.
Ok, twice in one day I am in agreement with Amanda Marcotte.
WTF?
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There are multiple biblical injunctions about women submitting to their husbands that are sometimes matched up with husbands behaving properly (e.g., Wives, be subject to your husbandsâŚHusbands, love your wives.âŚ). But why is the emphasis always on the womanâs ârighteousâ behavior and never calling the man to account?
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