Discussion: Trump's Abrupt Policy Shift Fuels Misleading Obamacare Renewal Info

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Providing Donny can fck the system up , hes very happy .

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Look does this surprise anyone? Most of America realizes that TrumpDon’tCare about the poor, the ones’ with pre-existing conditions, the family that has someone with a pre-existing condition, budgets, promises, and most of all stability. And yes the majority in Congress still can’t get their shit together, craft legislation, or even compromise withing their own party. Freakin’ amatures and Libertarians.

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Sometimes the words come easy and fast when talking about Trump, but lately, they don’t. It’s a stark hungry fear he is dealing out to the majority of Americans, telling us, and that damn tax bill they are churning up, that we are entering an age of crass stupidity, where AR-15 wielding maniacs can walk into our schools and kill our children and the forces of the day will rise up to defend it. Where, and the’ve been saying this since the beginning, the wealth will trickle down, and still that is believed.

We are being lied to with such impunity, a big question facing our fellow citizens in Alabama is whether to elect a child pedophile to office or not, because FOX news and Rush and Hannity have convinced them that Democrats have horns and cloven hoofs and they buy it lock stock and barrel.

The threats to our democracy, no, no, they yell at us, it’s a Republic, are going beyond what will or can be repaired. We are losing it to folks who feel they have won the argument with smugly repeating some nonsense such as the example as proof of their moral superiority and intellectual powers.

And they are winning.

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Republican’ts run on a platform of, “Government is broken!” Then they get elected and break it…

The Republican’t Party: Gleefully killing their own voters, since 1981…

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For Donnie’s legislation agenda, “regular order” is regular disorder. Shameful!

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It still amazes me these clowns get reelected. Yeah, I know that locally a member can be “popular” and all but jeeze.
The GOP is supposed to value small government and fiscal responsibility as core principles. These days they’re into blatant payoffs to wealthy donors at the cost of the national debt.
They can’t even pass gas much less useful legislation.

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The country is falling apart: the Office of the President is a thorough disgrace and deligimitized. The Senate has been ruined by a human/turtle hybrid. The Supreme Court has a stolen seat.

This is unbearable, the level of damage inflicted by a debased, depraved political party. Welcome to Dystopia. And here everyone thought it would be after a nuclear war.

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it’s the other way around i think. they break it so they can run on “government is broken”.

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Of course it does. That is how trump/repubs act. Confuse everything so it is one ball of crap. Everyday I wake up knowing our country is screwed because folks wouldn’t listen to the warnings of a trump win. Russia aside, if we had all voted Dem trump & the repubs would not be destroying our country now.

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When will the nightmare end? Many repubs are dying and that is my hope at this point.

The tax bill was bad enough, but now that 13 million Americans will lose their health insurance, it clearly says how immoral repubs truly are.

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But they are winning with help from many in our bothsides, access-hooked, whatabout driven media, who prefer to report policy as some kind of game or contest. This drives me up the wall, because it leaves the citizenry confused and in disagreement about what facts are and ultimately what the objective reality is.

Consider

But even more telling was the presence of mainstream journalists — from CNN, the Washington Post, Bloomberg, the New York Times, Politico, GQ, Axios, The Atlantic, and New York — some of whom were there under the pretense that the party was off the record. Schmoozing with sources or observing up close the debauchery of subjects is sometimes part of the game, of course, but there was a palpable unease in the room — who exactly was using who here? The Breitbart Embassy of yore had been a fringe enclave; but in 2017, it’s a venue for Bannon to showcase his unusual, if overstated, political power.

Who was there?

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/930909317833854981

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Shut that felon down. Lock. Him. Up.

Chomsky lays it out well… defund, and break the system, yell about government incompetence, point to the system they broke through strangulation, hand it over to private capital, jack the prices, lower the quality, profit.

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Good thing we didn’t elect “crooked Hillary,” huh? And let’s keep fighting about 2020, because purity is the only thing that matters.

“I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!”

Don’t let the wingnuts confuse, distract and fool you into thinking that you don’t have agency to change things. Use the web, find a “navigator” and sign up for a health care plan for which you might be eligible. Yes, the ACA is complicated and goodness knows what Congress might do to mess it up further. Don’t let the other side win this battle. Don’t watch Fox “News” or get your only information from Facebook. Learn to distinguish verifiable facts from lies. And please, vote every November. It’s really important, whether you personally like the candidate or not, or if they don’t look good on television. It’s about choosing the best person for the job, period. Don’t get fooled again.

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First – this year the companies are automatically reenrolling you in your plan – but even if it has the same name, it will not be the same plan. In our case, the premium, deductible and copay doubled. If you do not cancel it, you will be on the hook for it.

Secondly – I urge anyone shopping the exchange for health insurance to go find in person help from a qualified navigator. Do not go to a broker even if that broker was referred through the exchange.

Brokers get a fee or percentage of your premium from the insurance companies for every policy they sell – so they may have incentive to up-sell and in our case, we were actively discouraged from applying for tax credits or medicaid. In contrast, navigators are trained to help you figure out your options and will help you fill our your application. They are not in business to sell you something.

My advice is to always at least apply for tax credits and/or medicaid. You might be declined --or you may be surprised that you qualify. If you qualify, you always have a choice to apply the tax credits in any amount you wish to lessen your monthly premium cost, or you can defer them until you file your next tax return – in which case you might get this money back in the form of a tax refund.

In our case, the broker instead checked a box last year declining to apply and that screwed up our application this year in which the system would not recognize our application. It kept spitting back policies at full market value and saying we weren’t qualifying for anything.

The navigator figured out the problem – and as it turned out, we qualified for medicaid for 2018-- and would have qualified last year too. But instead, we paid full market rate of over $12,000 in premiums and over $25,000 in out of pocket expenses. We had to use personal credit to pay for this. If the broker had not screwed us by declining to even apply, during the year when my husband fell ill and could not work, we could have gone on the exchange, put in our change in income and received immediate assistance.

This year, before I found the navigator, we were facing a premium of over $2000 per month with a $7500 deductible per person – and the broker, instead of helping, told me to just buy the policy and never to apply for medicaid because it would be “horrible.”

He had promised to do a conference call with the exchange to see if there might be a glitch – then he failed to return my calls. All I can surmise is that he determined he was not going to make any money off of us and could not be bothered. I was told by the navigator to report him to our state Insurance Commissioner for unethical practices.

If this happened to us – it stands to reason it may be happening elsewhere. GO FIND A NAVIGATOR.

FYI – I found a navigator at our local hospital’s business and financial aid office.

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If you can’t win by the ‘will of the people’ then FK 'EM…do an end run around them, blame ‘previous administrations’, declare victory and move on over the top of sick bodies. This, folks, is the ‘new’ Republican Party.

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Yes, it’s dire. But I live in VA and we do see some hope. So should you … they are only winning if not enough people turn out to vote. If people managed to vote here in an off-year election - and they did in droves - it’s a good sign.

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Providing Donny can fck the system up , hes very happy .
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I think it’s really people he’s looking to fuck over. So long as he’s doing it in service of the Trump Family Tax Cut Act, it’s for a good cause (he figures).