Discussion: Trump Withdraws From Iran Nuclear Deal In Blow To US Allies

Ernest Moniz, nuclear physicist, chair of the MIT Physics Dept and Director of the Bates Accelerator Facility and Obama’s 2nd term Secretary of Energy participated in the negotiations as an expert on nuclear weapons. He was preceded by Steven Chu, Nobel Prize winning atomic, molecular and optical physicist as Obama’s first term.
Now we have Rick Perry with a degree in animal husbandry, baby kissing Governor of Texas and contestant on Dancing with the Stars as Energy Secretary. Things should all go well from here on.

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They forget to sneak in gay and gun grabber. They must be slipping.

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good recap on Foreign Policy:https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/08/the-predictable-disaster-of-trumps-lonely-iran-strategy/

ince then, to save the JCPOA, the United Kingdom, France, and Germany all have pushed for new EU sanctions against Iran. But they have insisted that the new sanctions not be linked to Iran’s noncompliance with the JCPOA — and, thus, to the reimposition of Washington’s pre-deal sanctions — for the obvious reason that it has not been found in breach of the deal. The most that Trump is likely to concede to European pressure not to reimpose sanctions is to allow the deal to be “fixed” during the six-month grace period that the U.S. Treasury has previously suggested is likely to be given to firms affected by the changes to unwind business dealings with Iranian firms.

But that concession is in any case a dead end, because if U.S. sanctions snap back this month, and again in July, the United States will be in breach of the JCPOA. Indeed, even if the United States did have evidence of Iran’s noncompliance (which, again, it appears to admit it does not), the JCPOA, and U.N. Security Council Resolution 2231 that accompanies it, sets out a formal dispute resolution process that the United States would have to take, which Trump currently seems to be ignoring.

If Trump breaches the deal first, and fails to even follow the dispute resolution process the United States agreed to in the deal, the European-U.S. diplomatic unity that brought Iran to the table would end, and a trans-Atlantic split would open over Iran. Once the United States is in breach of the deal, Europeans cannot in good faith support U.S. moves to renegotiate it, as this would set a bad precedent not just vis-à-vis Iran but for all other security agreements and, indeed, the sanctity of any international agreement to which those European states are party. The result will be that European support for the United States over Iran will end. That makes it very unlikely that Trump will ever negotiate a better deal, which was the product of more than a decade of coordinated sanctions and diplomacy.

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Oh my dog, you had to remind us of that, didn’t you?

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Those that are filling up at the gas pump with the price near $3 a gallon might be persuaded. How’s that extra $1.50 a week in temporary withholding working for you in this awesome Trump economy, folks? Hyper inflation is just around the corner and Trump fiddles around in world politics like he’s Nero.

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Losing contestant. He was beat out by the woman with one leg that everyone hates so much because of how badly she treated Paul McCarthy.

California maybe not MS, AL or LA.

Yup, truer words could not be spoken. Why would ANY country trust our word now…even our allies? Dump doesn’t even know what an ally is. Smh…

And now, suddenly, North Korea is going to believe everything we tell them??? And they’re going to trust that we are going to keep our word ???
Fuck, this Dotard is dumb. :roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

Can someone wake me from this nightmare now? …

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Yup. One ray of hope in Korea is that clearly it’s China driving Kim at this point (ref: the multiple trips to China for “consultations”, etc and even the fact that there’s movement at all after all these years). China has its own agenda and doesn’t want a war on its borders, so they’ll keep things in line there. On Iran, I’m fearful but also hopeful that this is the moment the sane world collectively tells us to “bag it, Yanks”.

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Because it’s right there in front of you, approaching at full speed.

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But, but, but - “We’ll be greeted as Liberators!”

(NOTE: Your mileage may vary…)

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I hear the price of tuna is higher than bananas.

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Same age. And don’t forget the racism… No more hiding it. It’s who we are.

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I agree with your comment except for this excerpt. The crook Netanyahu is no more representative of the fine Israeli people than Trump is for us. Israel has made a mistake, and millions shouldn’t die for it.

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“American officials were dusting off plans for how to sell a pullout to the public and explain its complex financial ramifications.”

That is just too fucking precious.

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If there is a full scale war with Iran you can expect some serious terrorist attacks here in the US as reprisals. And it won’t necessarily be driven by wacked out Iranian jihadists.

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And let’s not kid ourselves - North Korea has nuclear weapons only because China and Russia wanted the to have them. An agrarian economy developed intercontinental ballistic missiles entirely on its own? Yeah, right.

So, if Iran can’t cut a deal with Europe, expect them to have an incredibly successful nuclear program, surprise!

“Qui Buono?” indeed…

There will be a “statue erected of Donald Trump in some Grand Square in Tehran” just as Richard Perle predicted that statue erected of George W Bush in Baghdad.

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King Merdes applies his tragic touch to brand USA.

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I’m reminded of that scene in (possibly) “The World According to Garp”.

The real estate agent is showing Robin Williams a house he’s thinking of buying. As they stand in the street admiring it, a small play flies over and crashes directly into the house. Williams gets all excited and tells the agent “I’ll take it!”

'What? Why?" the agent asks.

“What are the chances of that happening twice?!!?”

Yeah, that’s where we are about now…

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