Discussion: Trump: There Could Be A 'Softening' Of My Mass Deportation Proposal

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Screw him.

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I want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. He has an unusual speaking style. I’ve digested this post and this is what I think he is saying:

We have really strong laws. Very strong laws. People don’t realize this. It’s brutal to create new laws. We don’t want to hurt people, but we can be more aggressive. We’ve got some horrible people, gang members, killers, bad people. They’re going out on day one. There can be a softening, and there are really great people waiting in line, proudly wanting to come into our country, but we have to take people away from that line.

In other words, working within existing laws, and strengthening those laws, Trump is going to take out all the bad people on day one. What “take out” means is to be determined.

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Impacted bowels need softening too. Trump’s immigration ‘plan’ is a turd of epic proportions.

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no

‘take out’ is deportation. He will use the existing laws to try to get that ‘dream’ realized, but he hasn’t really pulled away from that Eisenhower idea. All he’s doing now is backpedaling…

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A term Wolf Blitzer, Mrs. Andrea Mitchell Greenspan (R-Shill), or Chuck Todd won’t use about Drumpf. To them, that only applies to Democrats.

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He’s giving those Dreamers nightmares.

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That was very un-Trump-like. A “softening”? Quite possibly one of the most flaccid arguments he’s made.

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I’ve watched and read dozens of accounts across the full spectrum of media the last few days since this “softening” occurred. Every damned sourse couches their approach to the story with a variation of “Has Trump actually, during this campaign, called for the deportation of millions of immigrants? Or has he parsed his words, kept some ambiguity in everything he’s said, that allows for this now without being labeled a flip-flopper or going back on his promises?”

WTF???!!! No, he has not been ambiguous. Yes, he has flatly, unequivocally called for the deportation of all illegal/undocumented immigrants. STFU!! He’s said it, dozens of times. Journalism is truly dead.


Trump was pressed for specifics on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" by co-host Mika Brzezinski, who asked if he would have a "massive deportation force."
"***You're going to have a deportation force***, and you're going to do it humanely," Trump said. "Don't forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that are waiting in line to come into this country and they're waiting to come in legally. And I always say the wall, we're going to build the wall. It's going to be a real deal. It's going to be a real wall."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/politics/donald-trump-deportation-force-debate-immigration/
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A central plank of Trump’s immigration plan calls for deporting the estimated 11 million undocumented migrants currently living in the United States, and then repatriating the “good ones” back to the US again. After regaining entry to the news conference, Ramos asked Trump how that would work.

***“How are you going to deport 11 million people?” Ramos said.*** “By train, by bus? Are you going to bring the army?”

Trump replied that the process would be “very humane” and that it would work because he was “a great manager”.

***“We’re going to do it in a very humane fashion. Believe me.*** I have a bigger heart than you do. We’re going to do it in a very humane fashion,” Trump said.

“You know what it’s called? Management … I’m a great manager. I know how to manage things. I hire unbelievable people. What we’re doing here will work great.

“Once I win, you’re gonna see things happen.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/27/donald-trump-deport-11-million-migrants-is-that-even-possible

The businessman’s statement made on a call with Alabama Republicans Thursday night added a bit of specificity to the Republican presidential frontrunner’s hardline stance on immigration. Mr. Trump released a six-page policy paper on immigration last month, and reporters have asked for details about how it would work since.
The Alabama Republican Party hosted the dial-in call with Mr. Trump Thursday night as part of series with the 2016 presidential candidates. Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Carly Fiorina and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz have also participated.
On the call, Mr. Trump was asked for details about how long it would take to round up illegal immigrants living in the U.S., with the questioner asking if five or ten years was an appropriate timeframe. Mr. Trump said his two year benchmark could be met with “really good management.”
“We have to get them out. If we have wonderful cases, they can come back in but they have to come back in legally,” Mr. Trump said in an audio clip posted on YouTube Thursday night by a person on the call…
Mr. Trump said he would remove illegal immigrants from the country “so fast that your head will spin,” and long before he could embark on his plan to build a wall spanning the 1,900 mile border between the U.S. and Mexico.

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It amazes me that this fool cannot speak in sentences, but only disjointed phrases. Sad.

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[quote=“misterneutron, post:17, topic:42457”]
Trumpism is all about vindictiveness.
[/quote] So who in GA got to him? Didn’t the state of GA do a severe crack down and rounding up of undocumented workers, and the ones that took the biggest hit was the produce farmers? Their crops rotted in the fields because they couldn’t get pickers to pick for the price that they paid undocumented workers?

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You’re wrong, Cockwomble Caligula. Hurting people - specifically non-conservative, non-white, and non-male people - is exactly what your base and all the assholes who show up at your rallies are looking to do.

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What about the anonymous “top Chicago cop” who could stop all the violent crime in a week, if he could just “take the gloves off”? Any softening there?
Tough-guy Trump is afraid of going to neighborhoods where African Americans live, after protests at UIC scared him, so he takes his message to African Americans to lily-white audiences.
What the hell have you got to lose, losers?

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After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia…

Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars’ worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they’ve done to Georgia’s largest industry…

The results of that investigation have now been released. According to survey of 230 Georgia farmers conducted by Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black, farmers expect to need more than 11,000 workers at some point over the rest of the season, a number that probably underestimates the real need, since not every farmer in the state responded to the survey.

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And for this to happen in a timely legal process there will have to be more immigration judges and lawyers involved in the matter. Part of the slowness of the process is the lack of judges actively working on these cases.

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Don’t expect him or his advisers to know or care anything about procedures. He doesn’t need procedures. He’ll bark the orders and the INS will obey.
A lifetime of surrounding himself with sycophants and yes-men gives him that confidence.

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I hire unbelievable people.
Yes, they are as unbelievable as he is. You can’t believe a thing they say.

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Love it!

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Due process is a basic legal concept in our system. That he has no notion of it makes him unqualified for any political office or government job. Period.

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Donald Trump’s plan to deport nearly 11 million people living in the US without permission would put a massive strain on the immigration courts, creating an enormous backlog of cases that would take years to clear.

But if Trump is elected president, he has a simple solution: He’ll simply go around the courts.

In an interview with Business Insider at Trump Tower in New York last week, Trump repeatedly brushed off concerns about the practicality of his immigration plan, saying that he would have perfect legal authority to circumvent the courts.

“They say you have to go through a huge legal process. You don’t. They’re illegal. If somebody walks in, they don’t bring them to court, they send them back,” Trump said.

“Well these people came in, and they came in a year ago. No different. If somebody walks from Mexico or wherever they come from, and they come into the country, security guards bring 'em back. You don’t go through 10 years of courts and stuff. Well, this is no different.”

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I love the smell of desperation in the morning. It smells like…victory! (For Secretary Clinton and the Democratic Party.)

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