Mr. Lord, when you say “depending on the race” it would be a concern, did you mean the presidential race overall or just the race of the person trying to cast their vote?
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depending on the race and all of that kind of thing
He may have meant the race between candidates here, but something tells me Lord (sic) is going to regret having said this.
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I will be honest and say I really, really, really do not like not having a paper trail. I like the idea of electronic voting, but want audits.
That said, the idea that this presidential election could be hacked is laughable. I’m much more worried about the idea of smaller local elections being affected, and in any case, having a clear audit trail reinforces transparency and fairness, and that is unequivocally a good thing for our democracy.
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I guess their plan is that more Democrats will be scared off than Republicans?
(Well, actually the plan is to discredit the election and delegitimatize elected office holders.)
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The Diebold machines were largely a republican initiative, especially in Ohio, where Diebold CEO, Walden O’Dell, a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush, sent a get-out-the-funds letter to Ohio Republicans (2003). In the letters he says he is “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president [Bush] next year.”
Several analysis of Diebold machines showed significant hacking potential, yet many locales stuck with the machines and refused to incorporate secondary paper accounting. Lord is correct. You do not know whether your vote is tabulated correctly, thanks to the Republicans.
Karma is a bitch.
…just because he “pushes the button” to vote for Trump doesn’t necessarily mean that his vote will be counted that way.
In my state, when I push the button to cast my vote, all of my votes are printed on paper in addition to being counted electronically. I can even look at it!
I’m not worried about the Democrats hacking the machines, anyway, since the Republicans control 33 state legislatures and thus likely have control of the voting machines.
We’ll know if the machines are hacked if Trump emerges as the winner.
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Why would the race of the voter matter? According to Republicans, the only race that should be voting is Caucasians.
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Moron…
This guy even looks stupid.
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He must’ve been watching Simpsons reruns.
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The anything but moronic Al Gore initially wanted to contest all of Florida’s votes, was talked out of it because of the logistics, and concentrated on those counties which the campaign believed he would have carried if there was no interference. Gore deserves more respect than he gets. Put yourself in his shoes when he lost after first being declared the winner and then was able to give a gracious concession speech.
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A reminder that Lord is one of several PAID staff members who’s job is to support Trump. CNN is paying him to be a stupid ass. One of the many reasons I do not watch CNN, ever.
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Yup. Repeat this so often I should have it in a document to copy and paste. In his (and my) home state of PA, GOP legislature as defendants in the case which found the voter ID law unconstitutional (before the 2012 election) stipulated they had no evidence of voter fraud after they claimed the law was needed to stop voter fraud. The judge gave them a chance and they had nothing. But there were the actual voters who were significantly burdened, and the GOP legislator saying on one of those sneaky liberal microphones that passing the law guaranteed Mitt Romney would take PA. Lost on that and lost on the law. GOP never even appealed the ruling. Admitted, under oath, they had no evidence. So this hack is clueless or lying. And the CNN host should have hit him with this instead of a little both sider could be a few cases. Not according to the defendants. No evidence…
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They are not foolproof and irregularities are more likely to be caused by rather more mundane reasons with important consequences: https://newrepublic.com/article/137115/americas-voting-machines-disaster-making
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Funny thing is, I always watch the debates on CNN because they are the outfit that does the most bending over backwards to create false equivalence, which I find to be a great and interesting litmus test for determining exactly what REALLY happened, so long as you’re capable of spotting it when they’re doing it, which isn’t generally hard, particularly when you’ve got the such an obvious non-equivalence as the subject matter in this case.
Plus, I like David Axelrod, who is usually spot on…and it’s fun to watch the look on Anderson’s face as Van Jones rants something about how completely absurd Trump is and Anderson has to try desperately to keep his unbiased demeanor. Lord, however, is the consummate reality-denialist douchenozzle who will say absolutely anything just so that it gets said. He’s almost as stupid as Bliltzer. And I’m not sure who his little blond conservative bobblehead friend is on the shows, but she’s almost Katrina Pierson’s level of mindless…very entertaining to see what nonsense will come out of her mouth because she’s totally unable to hide that she wrote it or received the talking point prior to the debate, and dagnabbit, she’s gonna say it no matter what the hell took place.
As for this “hacked machines” and whatever, I liken it to this meme…
http://www.troll.me/images/bill-oreilly/fucking-magnets-how-do-they-work.jpg
This shit is technology and their base still gets caught flatfooted looking askance at the arcane complexity of the abacus…'nuff said.
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Yes. Who knows. But anyway I believe it’s 80% of voting is now done by paper/scanner systems which can be recounted manually by counting paper ballot votes. As a poll worker in Trump’s own state I can tell you (and him, since he knows nothing about anything he is talking about) there is a complex system of locks and keys and signatures and forms and reconciling numbers etc., not to mention a Republican and a Democrat at each district table. Plus OFFICIAL poll watchers from each party who know what they are doing and what they can’t do. Plus a police officer.
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No, he won’t. That loathsome ghoul has no capacity for regret. Besides, had he not actually used the article “the” there, it would not have been some kind of slip up, and would have been perfectly in keeping with prior behavior and beliefs. The way Jeffrey Lord gleefully says incredibly rude, ridiculous or straight up hateful things just to get Van Jones worked up, and then just sits there smirking, is all the evidence one needs to judge his character. He comes across as a miserable, incredibly small person consumed by hate and anger and resentment. A braying ass.
The documentary “Hacking Democracy” showed that it could be done. Whether or not it can be done on a scale large enough to affect this election is an open question, but it does point to a requirement that we come up with a better, more secure voting system.
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What is it with these guys’ obsession with hacking machines that they do not own and groping women without consent??
Trump must be trounced soundly. Anything less will be disappointing.
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I was in Greensboro, NC then. We used diebold machines…
Several thousand ballots went “missing” from our district.