Discussion: Trump Spox Tries To Recalibrate His Past Comments Linking Vaccines And Autism

Donald J. Trump: “I’m not against vaccinations for your children, I’m against them in 1 massive dose.Spread them out over a period of time & autism will drop!”

Trump Spokesperson: “Anyone that tells you what does or what doesn’t cause autism is simply not basing that on facts.”

So what you’re telling us is that your candidate is not basing his position on facts. No surprise there.

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Jesus, TPM, it won’t hurt to take a little break from humping Trump’s leg. The Trump gravy train isn’t leaving anytime soon. Hell, you could even do some reporting on the presumptive Democratic nominee.

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I’m not against vaccinations for your children, I’m against them in 1 massive dose.Spread them out over a period of time & autism will drop!

Trump

The science is clear: The earth is round, the sky is blue, and #vaccineswork. Let’s protect all our kids. #GrandmothersKnowBest

Clinton

a bit of context

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“We don’t know, we need to keep looking,” Emken continued, saying she hadn’t discussed the issue with the GOP frontrunner. “But the bottom line is, look, vaccines are the most successful health program in the history of the world, so I don’t believe that’s at all what he was saying.”

Translation: “Master doesn’t let Igor within twenty feet of Master, so Igor doesn’t know what Master is like. Not Igor’s job to know. But Master is good. Master is good. Master is good.”

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This “spox” (which I can’t help but see as "bot’), seems to be speaking from Sacramento, and yet she doesn’t know that Governor Brown signed legislation in January of 2015 mandating that children be vaccinated or they cannot enter school effective July 2016. They can file personal belief exemptions however. Good luck with that.

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Enough said.

Parents, get your children vaccinated. You were.

Don’t be selfish pricks.

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“We don’t know, we need to keep looking,” Emken continued, saying she hadn’t discussed the issue with the GOP frontrunner. “But the bottom line is, look, vaccines are the most successful health program in the history of the world, so I don’t believe that’s at all what he was saying.”

I’ll give her credit for saying this. I’ll give her a lot more credit if she dumps Trump.

Willful Malignorance Kills…slowly and painfully.

Hey, he finally got a spokeswoman that doesn’t look like an off-duty pole dancer.

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Aww, Lio. I’ve seen your comic strip, and you have no reason to criticize anyone else for a one-note focus.

“As recently as September 2015, Trump regularly tweeted about vaccines and autism…”

He will certainly survive that one crazy thing because everything he has tweeted and said since then has been bursting with wisdom and saneness and Mother Theresa-like love for his fellow man (and did I mention the women?).

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I certainly think that there is research to be done about the timing of vaccines. Nothing about autism, which is not related in any study, to vaccination. However, if a bunch of vaccines are given at once, it could stress children with specific systematic conditions.

That might be worth a small trial, which would be very low-cost. Simply give 3 vaccines on one day or 1 week apart, and look for specific vaccine-related AEs. Very low-cost trial.


A little quick check of the universal locator of all knowledge (google) revealed the difficulty with a trial of spacing out vaccines like I discuss above. A large number of vaccinations are multi-dose, delivered over a 3 shot deal. In that sense, spacing out the 5 vaccinations with 3 doses each would require 15 doctor visits, which would be logistically quite difficult, and would also be very expensive, since most visits require a co-pay. So, keep it as it is right now, but keeping track of vaccination complications (whatever those are) might be useful. Spacing vaccines is just not really feasible.

Her point is wrong. It is true that not everything is known that causes autism but some things are more closely linked and corellatory than others. Not iron clad but they do know. There are also things that so far there is not a hint are associate. Things like vaccines for instance. To say we have no idea is also a falsehood.

And Trump is pretty much using the gambit of too many vaccines too soon. This is utter nonsense and only functions for those with no understanding of immunology. All of this is tested. And even in another sense, a child at a young age is exposed to more antigens just existing than they are through any vaccination program. The body is quite capable of dealing with many immune stimulating molecules at one time. If it could not we would be a failed species.

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Not too mention there is no evidence that it matters.

Any intelligent educated person who chooses to work for the Trump campaign is a complete tool who values money over their soul.

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Or one whose survival, or that of his dependents, dictates that he/she take any job he/she can get at that point in time. Now, if you described “an intelligent, educated person who doesn’t especially need the job” I could go along with that.