Discussion: Trump Signs Executive Order Aiming To Make Lower-Premium Health Care Plans

Well well well. This seems like a smart way to shore up his base and make McConnell and co look bad.

Excellent article. Makes clear that similar ā€œreformsā€ have been available for sub-populations in the past. but insurance companies canā€™t set up the networks so they go nowhere. Also that court challenges are sure to follow. Meaning that this order is for the time being an empty gesture.

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I hope so. Iā€™m getting tired of watching him and the various federal agency Secretaries tear into established law and make new law without any say by Congress or the people.

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Somewhere in Kansas the Kochs are smiling.

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Makes you wish someone would drop a house on Kansasā€¦

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Interesting that the party of statesā€™ rights is supporting an Executive Order that expands the availability of association health plans, allowing them to be sold, unregulated, across state lines. Apparently GOP logic allows the rights of unregulated states to override the rights of regulated states.

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Were it even that much! Itā€™s just another useless memo that Iā€™m sure It believes is a law. But at least itā€™s not the out-of-control and lawless Obama, you know, because it was absolute tyranny when he signed any EO.

Note to 2020 Dem candidates, hereā€™s your entire platform: To undo every harmful, incompetent, and destructive EO on day one.

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Wellā€¦it looks like we all need to pay more attention to the click bait stories at the bottom of the TPM Site:

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Unfortunatelyā€¦we have been suffering from the reverseā€¦Damn Kansas was dropped on the House and itā€™s never recovered.

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Alternative headline - ā€œTrump: Whack Jobā€

And thereā€™s thisā€¦

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Make no mistake, this idea of selling insurance ā€œacross state linesā€ is no more than a race to the bottom, making Alabama insurance law the law of my state, Oregon. I suspect this cannot withstand judicial scrutiny.

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Or syphilis like Al Capone. When he was in prison for tax evasion the syphilis made him disoriented to the point where he would lash out at everyone around him. Hmmm the symptoms sound familiar.

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Youā€™re rightā€¦tax evasionā€¦AND syphilis

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They want to nullify the legal prerogatives of state insurance commissioners and regulators it seems, just so they can do all that fun stuff like over-charging without any oversight. No one will have authority if insurance is sold across state lines without the state being in charge of regulating insurance sold to citizens in their own states. All 50 states have insurance commissioners btw.

https://ballotpedia.org/Insurance_Commissioner_(state_executive_office)

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Iā€™ve posted this numerous times in comment sections on selling health insurance across state lines. I see this as an attempt to extend the Supreme Court decision in Marquette National Bank of Minneapolis v. First of Omaha Service Corp. to health insurance. The Court held that the usury rate in the state where the credit card issuing company is located takes precedence over the usury rate in the state where the credit card user is located. That led to a race to the bottom for all credit card issuers to move to states with little to no usury protection for borrowers.

@rob_beatty_walters That is the intent, and I donā€™t have a whole lot of confidence in this Supreme Court.

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Once again, psychological projection rears its ugly head. A Republicanā€™t accusation is actually a confession!

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Cheeto shows off his executive orderā€¦

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None of this addresses the fact that even with current system, if you have the ā€œwrongā€ type of insurance carrier, it can be difficult to find a provider to accept that carrier.

I doubt this system will help that. Instead, I see all provider and hospitals say, hereā€™s your forms, you submit the bill to your insurance fo reimbursement but we want our cash now.

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Exactly. No soup for anybody! (Except rich white guys.)

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I noticed from that map I posted above that Kansas elects its insurance commissioner. Since insurance commissioners are in a position to protect the public from unscrupulous practices by the insurance industry and provide consumer protections in general, I wonder what kind of toothless position the Kansas insurance commissioner currently holds. Kathleen Sebelius was an insurance commissioner there from 1995ā€“2003. From Wikipedia:

In 1994 she left the House to run for state Insurance Commissioner and stunned political forecasters by winning ā€“ the first time a Democrat had won in more than 10 years.

She refused to take campaign contributions from the insurance industry and blocked the proposed merger of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas, the stateā€™s largest health insurer, with an Indiana-based company. Sebeliusā€™s decision marked the first time the corporation had been rebuffed in its acquisition attempts.

In 2001 Sebelius was named as one of Governing Magazineā€™s Public Officials of the Year while she was serving as Kansas Insurance Commissioner.

You can bet the Kochs have their messy fingerprints all over that position now in Kansas. No doubt they finance every campaign for their preferred insurance commissioner there now. Just a guess.

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