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Obvously, Trump got the information from Infowars, the most trusted source of news in the country for all ignorant malcontents and others whoâve been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.
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The source VG is one of the two-three major newpapers in Norway:
Basicly the police says they have found pictures of decapitated heads and IS symbols on some phones. They donât give any number or frequency of the findings of such photos on the phones of refugees entering Norway. Although they say a few hundred cases has been inspected.
It is probably not too many, as the equivalent of FBI in Norway (PST) is called into investigate every time the local police finds suspected media on phones, Ipads etc. If this was a major problem the PST would never had the capacity to investigate it, and would not have had this centralized task.
The Nettavisen.no source cited, is probably derivated from the VG.no story. Nettavisen is an Internet-only newspaper and seen as populistic and more right-winged-leaning than most other newspapers in Norway, while not anywhere near fascist or that extreme.
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âOur country is out of control. People are pouring across the southern
border. Iâll build a wall. Itâll be a great wall. People will not come
in unless they come in legally. Drugs will not pour through that wall,â
Trump said. As far as other people, like in the migration, where theyâre
going â tens of thousands of people having cell phones with ISIS flags
on them, I donât think so. Theyâre not coming to this country if Iâm
president."
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That 1st statement is patently untrue. We are not âout of controlâ. And people are not âpouring across the southern border.â Why do I say that? Because I live less than 50 miles from that border. I know it a hellâve a lot better than Trump does. There were hoards of people who used to enter illegally. But for better than half a decade the flow has been at net zero. As many as are entering are leaving.
And having an ISIS flag on a phone does not mean itâs owner is a member. They couldâve been looking at CNN or al Jazeera where I can find all sorts of ISIS stories. And I would remind Trump that the Mexican border is 2000 miles of very harsh country⌠That wall ainât gonna be as easy as he thinks.
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One other thing that trump forgetsâŚNixon closed the border down completely in the 1970âs to try to stop the drug trade. Two weeks of zero border commerce. No people or trucks crossed. Produce companies were losing money. There was no trade EXCEPT the drug trade which was not slowed at all. And people still entered illegally. It was called âOperation Interceptâ. It was a total failure.
In the 1980âs wehad a reprise under Gov. Evan Mecham. I witnessed a speech in which he said âIn 2 years Arizona will be drug free.â There was a lot of snickering among my friends over that comment.
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Itâs not illegal to have a Nazi emblem on your phone, or anywhere else, at least within your private sphere. Is Trump saying possessing an ISIS flag emblem as your phoneâs screen saver or elsewhere is, or should be, illegal? How would that square with the first amendment? I can actually express support for ISIS, publicly and legally, so long as I donât provide funding or the means for them to acquire material support.
Of much more concern than this, Trump also repeated something heâs said before â a claim the the 9/11 hijackers put their wives and girlfriends on planes to fly to Saudi Arabia so they could watch the attacks on TV.
Heâs raised this before - and been called out on it.
This is Alex Jones level craziness (although Jones doesnât believe 9/11 really happenedâŚ) ⌠it has been thoroughly debunked before, yet Trump just repeated it in tonightâs debate (as part of the justification for his plan for illegal targeted murders of family members of ISIS members).
I havenât seen any discussion of Trump comments on this in any of the real time blogging of the debate â but it is another one of his demonstrable paranoid lying that needs to be called out.
The wives and girlfriends didnât need to go anywhere to watch the 9/11 attacks since it was broadcast world wide. What was trump thinking? It wasnât only broadcast in Saudi Arabia. What silly BS Trump comes up with.
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I wonder where tRump got this idea from? Wasnât this used by the federalist against the Chechens during the 20 year war?
I was in Africa on 9/11 and it was broadcast in Kenya.
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I watched it on a tiny TV on a cruise ship in Ketchikan Alaska
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Trump just makes stuff up. Watching him make faces reminds me of six year olds squabbling. Embarrassing to see in an adult.
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If you can stand to watch the debate I am impressed. I cannot.
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I tried and I lasted only three minutes, tops.
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Iâve had my fill of Republican propaganda via the news outlets. Wouldnât watch the debates if you paid me.
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Which is projected into the mainstream by Trump whose claims and fantastical imaginings are deemed fact the moment they are uttered twice. My God, America, have you truly grown so stupid as to follow this Fascist Pied Piper?
Rhetorical question, I know. But is America really more Fascist today than it was 10 or 50 or 100 years ago? Iâm not so sure about that. Trump gives American Fascism (or whatever you want to call it) a very visible outlet⌠but he doesnât exactly lead, he follows the opinions of his supporters. And theyâve had those opinions for a while.
Heâs currently being given a massive media platform because he makes for good reality TV. But heâs not saying anything new.
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Trump should change his campaign motto slightly: âMaking America Look Stupid Againâ. Because itâs time to undo the damage Obama did to USâs reputation after Dubya.
Iâm guessing his ass like all the other TS he spews?
Iâll probably regret even asking, but where the hell does he think the buildings went?
He acknowledges that the buildings went down⌠but he denies that they were done by hijacked airplanes flying into buildings.
Instead he talks about them as being he result of controlled explosions set off by the government or some other shadowy powerful group as false flag operation and an excuse to cow the American people into martial law. (Or any one of a number similar variations - the joy of a good conspiracy theory is that it changes constantly to respond to debunking.)