Discussion: Trump’s Pick For OMB Director Has Vowed To 'End Medicare As We Know It'

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Two words for this whippersnapper: Third rail.

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Republicans are incapable of learning from the past, but they sure want to turn back the clock to the 1950’s.

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People wanted change. Well, they’re going to get it.

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You would think that they are aware of that.

Yet here we are…

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“Conservatives prefer to call their system “premium support.”

It would be so easy to to gut the Repubs on this, the question is, do the Dems have the balls to do it?

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We need to end Medicare because it’s going to be broke in 9 years? Someone should explain to this math-challenged gentleman that tax rates are actually adjustable. You can move them up if you need more money to pay for things.

Someone should also explain that Medicare isn’t going broke. Oh, and it’s both efficient and popular. One other thing - has anyone bothered to ask health insurance companies if they’re actually interested in insuring senior citizens?

I’ll bet they aren’t.

EDIT: I’d be curious to see what happened to insurance industry profits after Medicare became law in 1965 and they didn’t have to cover old people anymore. Did they go up? Anyone know?

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Where are all those tea party people with their signs about “keep your government hands off of my Medicare”? We could really use them about now

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I’m afraid that far too many Trump voters would trade their Medicare for the sight of cattle cars full of brown people headed toward the border.

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They’re busy holding yard sales to raise money so they can have coffee with Ivanka.

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when you have faith in your righteousness and when you have faith in the gospel of Ayn nothing can stop you

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In 2009 Medicare was set to go bankrupt in 2017. Strange how the goal posts keep moving.

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So, they want to deny Grannie and Granpie their meds? They want to starve them to death? They want to take small sick children and make them die in the cold?

Time to pull off the gloves, folks.

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Not in the post-truth era.

MSM will carry their water and its not Chuck Todd’s jobs to push back.

Besides, starving Grandma’s will make for good news story once the MSM’s corporate owners have gotten all they needed out of Trump or his liability becomes to much.

Afterward they will (finally) syop covering for Trump and pretend they were speaking truth to power all along.

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In Trump’s 2000 book, The America We Deserve, he directly compares Social Security to a Ponzi scheme. “The workers of America have been forced to invest a sixth of our wages into a huge Ponzi scheme,” Trump writes at one point. “The pyramids are made of papier-mache.”

He said he supported privatization in the book. Sure, he said otherwise on the campaign trail. Going by his cabinet picks, I am betting he was lying on the campaign trail. At any rate, If I was in my fifties, I’d be worried.

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I may thoroughly naive here, but if “entitlements” are cut without a corresponding cut in payroll taxes that fund the “entitlements” then that is a tax increase. In all of the discussions that I have heard about cutting social security, medicare and medicaid, I have never ever once heard an utterance of a corresponding payroll tax cut.

Are payroll taxes used to fund these programs going to stay in place while the programs are not? This will be a tax increase on all people paying payroll taxes, yet we will no longer see benefits in the form of these programs. We need to insure that payroll taxes are not rededicated to some other purpose.

If you get rid of the program, then you have to get rid of the tax.

On another thought, I am feeling that Dems should not put up too much of a fight to save these programs that the Rs want to destroy. All of us non-Randians are going to suffer during this administration, and in my opinion the people who voted for Trump REALLY need to feel pain from their vote to better understand what voting against your best economic interest in favor of someone who might deal with your single issue (i.e. forced birth) means. Without the pain they will continue to do the same thing over and over again. I recommend token resistance. Anything legislatively broken over the next few years can always be unbroken (I know real people will suffer real consequences, but we are here now) later on. Let’s help them burn it to the ground as the Trump voters wanted, expose the Rs for who they really are, and then rebuild in our desired image. We are dealing with the Red Dawn election.

WOLVERINES!

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Gee, good idea. Burn down the house to punish the guys in the upstairs floor. Sensible planning there.

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'cause following the path we are on is getting us what we need

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Well not the current elderly folks getting medicare or SS.

This is their voting base.

This will be a phase in, and they will start with Medicaid. This attack on the poor will be understood by their base as targeting the lazy blah people.

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