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March on to Victory, GOP Voters! Everybody in Umerika hates Hitlery and Obummer sooooo much that your victory is inevitable and assured, no matter who you nominate! Everyone you know agrees, so it must be true!
Oh, the bitter tears we liberals will be crying on election night when Trump receives a higher percentage of the white vote than any candidate ever and legitimate government once again returns to a suffering nation!
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At this point, Iâm starting to think that the GOP establishment has really given up on the race for the WH. Theyâll control the House until at least 2020, the Senate may still be in their hands after 2016 and theyâve managed to bring important legislation to a total standstill. Why bother too hard when theyâre already gaining in running the country?
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The pundits have just been so wrong about the Republican race itâs amazing. Everything theyâve predicted has been wrong. And now that every one of their justifications as to why Trump/Carson cannot win the nomination are not valid anymore (e.g. Trump has a lot of voters, but when candidates start dropping out they wonât vote for TrumpâŚwhich as we see is completely false, considering trump gets Carson voters and vice versa), theyâve resorted to Trump/Carson cannot win becauseâŚ
The one thing they are unwilling to accept is reality. Which is one of the 2 major political parties has gone completely off the deep end. Something that has been obvious to at least half of America ever since Obamaâs election.
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And the two non-pols STILL have a total over half - tho, jJUST over half, like always.
The third most resilient feature of all these polls since mid-summer has been one of Trump in the lead. Thatâs been the general trend - overwhelming the most, but not abolute.
The 2nd and 1st fmost haven;t been general trends but instead, absolutes:
(2) one the other of Trump and Carson is always on top,
(1) the total support for non-pols has not been at or under near 50%, but always just over 50%.
And has to mean one of 2 things: (A) that just over half of all self-identifying Republicans prefer to see someone OTHER than an elected Republican in the White House, or (B) just over half of them are convinced that the GOP canât win the White House with anyone in this race whoâs ever been elected to state or national office.
How is that ârealâ? Itâs real in the sense of reflecting a real anxiety that none of the elected pols is up to defeating the Dem nominee, certainly not HRC and maybe not even Sanders. But at the same time itâs a remarkably resilient and stubborn conviction OF a slight majority of GOPers - that is, OF, as Jindal has put it, âthe stupid partyâ.
IOW, the biggest evidence is that they really are the party of stupid.
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They would actually be wise to do this - just let the fever dream run itâs course, because even their mainstream âseriousâ candidates donât have much of a shot against Hillary. The GOP is overdue for another Goldwater moment and the purists need to finish up the circular firing squad. They can continue, with the gerrymander of the house, to stymie most of our agenda.
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OK, thatâs just scary.
So reports of Donald Trumpâs collapse have â again â been greatly exaggerated.
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Itâs worth a try. Throw in a pitch for gold coins to flummox them, and I think itâll work!
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I can see it now. Trumpet is catapulted into the White House because of polls taken with âlikely votersâ using landlines who only wanted to vent to the caller.
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The pundits have just been so wrongâŚ
about nearly everything. Keep in mind, pundits are paid to entertain and to influence political opinions. Theyâre not paid to predict. Theyâre really just political cheerleaders and not much more.
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David Brooks came pretty close to saying that a month ago. Hadnât read too much like it from a prominent pundit since the Great RINO Purge of 2008. Thought it would be significant, but it didnât seem to make much of a stir.
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God bless America for making this cruel buffoon the face of the dying GOPâŚ
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Not when the notion of âconservatismâ is in a serious identity crisis, I guess.
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But despite what the second choices indicate here, its very unlikely that either is going to sway voters away from their 1st choices. People who like Trump, like him for entirely different reasons than people who like Carson. The only way those voters get together is if one drops out. And that doesnât seem particularly likely before Iowa and New Hampshire.
Which brings up the next pointâŚNobody on the GOP side is anywhere near getting 51% of the vote. And a very good case can be made that the top 4 all have the resources to stay in this through March. That points to a brokered convention. Factor in that all of the campaigns have essentially neutered the RNC, it seems unlikely that they are going to have much success in trying to avoid that.
Cleveland might be a really interesting convention.
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Headline: âGOP voters still dumb; becoming stupiderâ
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How many Republican candidates use encrypted aps, I wonder?
âŚand is anybody surprised?
âŚlong-term NeoCon plan producing intended consequence. Dumb pols being elected by dumber voters.
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Any day now Trump is going to flame out. You watch. This clown canât possibly get the nomination ⌠What now? Huh. As I was saying, Trump! 2016! The best candidate for the job! Make America GREAT again! /Brooks/Will/etc
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