Discussion: Trump In 2005: Outsourcing Jobs ‘Not Always A Terrible Thing’

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Who can take a lifetime, sprinkle it with pooooooo
Cover it with serfdom and unending servitude
The Plutocrats, oh the Plutocrats can
The Plutocrats can cuz they bribe the gubermint and it obeys their mood…

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It. Will. Not. Matter.

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tRump’s response: “I never said that. I never typed that. I’m fairly sure someone at the University typed that and used my name.Terrible! Terrible! No more questions! Chrisco! To the Trumpmobile!”

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Though the likelihood of this question being asked is about 15-25%, simply ask him why did he change his mind?

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GOP Candidates: If only we had a functioning brain, done the homework on our opposition and ran a campaign based on facts?
Drumpf: Brain and Republicans dont really go together. I will continue to capitalize on that.

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I really wish everybody would stop equating “outsourcing” with “offshoring.” Outsourcing itself isn’t bad (it’s how I have my job), but offshoring is when you outsource overseas. They’re not the same thing.

So please, whenever you’re tempted to write “outsourcing” write “offshoring” instead.

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So let’s see:

President Trump’s jobs plan would be to continue to outsource jobs from the US to make companies more competitive and productive, allowing them to “funnel more into the economy” and create more jobs, acknowledging that American workers may lose employment opportunities, but sometimes outsourcing is “a necessary step.”

And yet the numbskulls whose jobs he would send overseas will turn out to vote for him in droves.

Do I have this wrong? This is a policy the US worker should get behind???

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Drumpf: I am saving the country by doing this. If we shift all jobs to some third world, jobless here will simply die (or move to those cheap countries) as they wont have any health insurance or food. Only rich will remain and the country will become automatically rich… and white.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Trump criticize the fact that the system encourages companies to send manufacturing out of the country? He’s saying that he wants to change that, not that he doesn’t take advantage of the system.

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Because work is often outsourced to other countries, it means Americans lose jobs.

This is what he wrote (though the entire essay is too coherent for he alone to have written it), so he does seem to approve of what is otherwise called offshoring. Besides a candidate for president should emphasize the need for American job creation, in infrastructure here at home, for instance, rather than starting out agreeing with sacrificing jobs for the greater good

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He kinda did it himself, as the attached story is making the rounds of the media:

He is as dishonest about this as he is about most things, but still the folks throng around his ‘telling it like it is’.

Trump in his own words:

  • Wages too high

  • Outsourcing jobs is good

  • Clothing made in Mexico/China good

  • Hiring illegals OK since no one else will work

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Trump is for something until he is against it until he is for it again .

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Donald Trump may have built his presidential campaign on a promise to “be the greatest jobs President that God ever created,” …

So that’s who’s to blame. What was it someone; Woody Allen, I think; said?

The worst thing that you can say about God is that he’s an underachiever.

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So what?

From Politifact:

Here are some of the other words Clinton used to describe the TPP before she left the State Department in 2013: “exciting,” “innovative,” “ambitious,” “groundbreaking,” “cutting-edge,” “high-quality” and “high-standard.”

Isn’t that good old fashioned bi-partisan consensus grand?

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Well t rump says he’s a uni-liar.

Well t rump says he’s a uni-liar. Only one doesn’t cover it.

Well t rump says he’s a uni-liar. Only one doesn’t cover it. bite me

I understand your point, but to the person losing a job, does it really matter?

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In political terms, “outsourcing” is indeed a bad thing. The entire concept (which is mostly smoke and mirrors, btw) is that by having multiple companies outsource a line of business that isn’t their core competency to someone whose it is, there are economies of scale to be achieved. Which, in political terms means…reducing jobs. That’s a no-no on campaign trails.

And in reality,the economies of scale are not that big to start with and disappear quite rapidly once the outsourcing company starts micromanaging the SLAs involved. More often than not,outsourcing is a way for a C level person to outsource day to day responsibilities and reduce headaches.

Think IT services. Most of the day to day is application helpdesk and hardware maintenance. Both are major headaches with lots of downside and very little upside for CIOs. So…outsource it. Then, if things go nominally well, they get to brag about selecting a good vendor, if they go bad, they get to blame it on the outsourcer and buy themselves a little time to repeat the process. But all the day to day managerial and operation problems…vanish.

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